EXCLUSIVE: Intolerant, Hateful Left Lashes Out, Threatens Mom Of 3 In Response To Her Viral Facebook Photo Supporting Hobby Lobby (PICTURES)

EXCLUSIVE: Intolerant, Hateful Left Lashes Out, Threatens Mom Of 3 In Response To Her Viral Facebook Photo Supporting Hobby Lobby (PICTURES)



Earlier this week a Texas cheerleader came under extreme fire from the intolerant left over her love for hunting. Today we’re seeing a mother of three and wife of a Army combat-infantry vet get pummeled with hateful intolerance for simply being pro-life supporter of Hobby Lobby.

Before we get to the hate, let’s start with some background on how it all started.

Yesterday I came across a picture on Facebook that, in my view, was certain to cause uproar amongst intolerant circles of the left. The picture showed a young woman wearing a pink ‘Pro-Life’ shirt, holding a cup from Chick-fil-A and standing in front of a Hobby Lobby.

I took the image and made a minor edit (the original image and text was created by James Redskins Anderson), then posted it to my Facebook page. When I woke up this morning I found the image had gone completely viral and was rapidly spreading across Facebook. In fact, as of the time of writing this the image has 75,000 likes, 13,000 shares and just under 2,000 comments. The image shows no signs of slowing down either.

I see images go viral all the time. Our Facebook network is about 2,000,000 fans strong. We have one page with 1.5 million fans and we can typically push an image out into millions of feeds, so having an image go viral isn’t new for us. But this is the first time I caused one to go viral that included a non-public figure and I had no idea who the pictured person was.

Here’s the picture posted.

holly fisher

Naturally I was hoping that whoever she was didn’t mind and was coping with whatever leftist fallout might have come as a result of it. A few minutes later I got a friend request from a man named David Wagner. Upon checking his timeline I noticed he had shared the image and said “Our friend Holly Fisher!” as a note along with the shared status.

A quick search revealed the real Holly, and sure enough she was neck deep in a fight with some of the foulest, most intolerant and hateful people you’ll find on the internet. Here’s Holly’s twitter page. Here is a sample of some of the crazy responses.

WARNING: Strong language and sexual references.

This should be renamed “How to make a sensible person shake their head at a dumb bitch” – Josiah Peterman

This chick probably just takes it in the butt so that she doesn’t get pregnant. Hahaha – Blake Nolen

I’d hit it. Tell her I have a condom on. Then peace out on her and see if she’s wearin that shit in 36 weeks. Meanwhile I changed my number. Deuces! – Thomas Borchert

Or how to make yourself look like a homophobic, religious radical douche… yup you nailed it! – Corey Duncan

All i see is a brainwashed woman, with no original thought in her brain and will continue pushing women to be put back in their place, in the kitchen with no job and popping out babies, blaming women for rape because of way the she dresses..this is what she will teach her daughter, that you are an object to men, not their equal and you shouldn’t protect yourself from getting pregnant and push abstinence, that her daughter won’t follow and will either get birth control for herself if she is smart, or get pregnant.. then an ass hat who can’t put carts in the corral.. again brainwashed female, we are born not believing in anything, it is the parents who force an imaginary man, whose life is written by men in a fictional book. – Michelle Spears

I’m going to wear my “just another slut on birth control shirt” with a rainbow flag tied around my neck and see how many of you keep saying “she’s just expressing what she believes in!” -Sarah Woodcock

I reached out to Holly and she said “one guy told me he would kill me by shoving the cup down my throat.” Holly says the response has been overwhelmingly positive in general.

I asked Holly what motivated her to take the picture and her response shows she’s not backing down.

I have always been extremely conservative and and passionate about my views. The last few years of the growing hate and intolerance among the “tolerant” left has made me want to stand up and speak out. I saw this as a perfect opportunity to show where I stand. I didn’t do it to try to change minds of those who disagree with me, but more so to show like-minded people that they’re not alone and it’s okay to stand up for what you believe in, even if it’s not popular right now. I want younger American’s to know it’s okay to not follow the current liberal path…

Holly’s only regret?

My only regret is that I didn’t brush my hair or wear makeup. Women! I know.

Just like Texas cheerleader Kendall Jones, Holly is standing by her principles and defending her personal beliefs without fear of the intolerant left.

Well done, Holly. Well done.

Be sure to follow Holly on twitter here. You can like, share and comment on the viral photo here.

Bonus thought… can you imagine how the left would respond if Holly’s Hobby Lobby photo included this bad boy slung over her shoulder?

gun-holly

  • Hannah Elder

    I totally said the same thing on FB…the only thing this picture is missing is a gun holstered to her side!! Haha.. I love this. Liberals are so easy to screw with ….and their arguments hold no weight. Liberalism is like an autoimmune disease…and we have yet to find the cure.

    • Steve Struemph

      Heaven forbid an actual conversation ever happened. Just posting things to piss people off (and not trying to have a discussion with mutual respect and an open mind) is part of the problem with us being so divided.

      • Hannah Elder

        Oh, I’d have a respectful conversation with a liberal if they could actually reciprocate with the same. Unfortunately, liberals don’t see reason or common sense very well.

        • Steve Struemph

          Sounds like a fun challenge. I’m down. What say you…

          • Steve Struemph

            Maybe it would be better if I asked a specific question. Ok, you are of the opinion that liberals don’t recipricate and I am offering to do so. You also feel that liberals don’t see reason or common sense well. My question is, what topic do you feel liberals are most unreasonable and lack common sense?

          • Hannah Elder

            Well, you voted the President in that we have today — I think that is pretty good evidence for a lack of reason or common sense.

          • jenny

            ALL OF THEM!

        • Reddz

          You obviously have not met a liberal. You probably met some pissy person claiming to be one. MOST of us are decent people who have intelligible arguments, so you are stereotyping us. And you don’t sound like you could reciprocate an argument well, because you said we’re an “autoimmune disease” and that you have “yet to find a cure.” When you mature , that’s when we can talk.

          • jenny

            Okay….here is a topic…why do you liberals fight to save criminals from being put to death but you do not hesitate to murder the unborn at ANY STAGE OF THE PREGNANCY? And before you say…IT’S OUR CHIOICE TO DO SO….I want you to tell us why the unborn child, who didn’t ask to be created, HAS NO CHOICE OR RIGHTS in your minds?
            Second Topic…Why are all you liberals okay with all these scandals under this administration? I have never seen the like of covering up for a corrupt bunch by liberals in all my life? As I see it, the republicans are trying to get to the bottom of all of them for the sake of ALL of the AMERICAN CITIZENS not just the conservatives, but they are slammed, demeaned, slandered and called racist for actually DOING THEIR JOBS while the democrats are fighting them all the way? Then you have Elijah Cummings (D), he is in the IRS scandal up to his back side and no one on the democrat side is even batting an eye…so please tell us why liberals think the way they do…and before you start calling me names…I’m a life long registered democrat…albeit a very unhappy one. I don’t recognize my party anymore and in my humble opinion, they have turned into full blown communists. Google “how many members of congress belong to the socialist party”. You might be shocked at what you find…but seeing, listening and reading what liberals post, you won’t be. Also, why are we constantly being called racist by the liberals just because we question what 0bama is doing as he destroys our country, our economy ad any future we might have as a free & great nation, even though we support men like Col. Allen West, Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Mia Love Scott Smith and others? Their skin is dark too, but we are still called racist just because we have a different opinion than 0bama. If we were as intolerant and narrow minded as those of you on the left, we would have labels all of your racist when you did not like Bush, demeaned him, cursed him and ,mocked him! Bush took us to war…that is true…but look at what your guy has done in the 5 years, 5 months and 13 days he has been in office. More soldiers have been killed under his watch than the whole 8 years Bush held office, Our national debt has increased $6.3 TRILLION DOLLARS under 0bama, (who by the way promised to CUT the original $10.3 Trillion debt in half by the end of his first term), He has armed our Enemies, his foreign policies of ‘Win the hearts and minds of TERRORISTS’, has the middle east in shambles and he has taken our freedoms, rights and liberties every chance he gets with his executive orders. He has spied on ALL OF US, not just conservatives and if he and the IRS get away with what they have done with their targeting, don’t say a word when a republican gets in office and does the same thing to progressive groups. What I don’t understand is do any of you actually think that any of the stuff we are fighting to stop will not ever affect you or your family if it is not stopped? And my last topic is…when did all of you liberals turn on your country and hate her so bad? What did this country ever do to you to make you hate her so much, make you disrespect her flag and basically decide that what got your parents and you where you are today was ALL WRONG? A Political party is not worth selling your soul for or selling out your country!

          • bburg70

            Wow, Jenny….excellent summation. Altho I have been a conservative for years, I do agree with your comments about not being able to recognize the Democrat party…at least not the party that JFK championed. At some point, whether LBJ or later, they decided to slide toward statism, and this country is far worse off for it. And the current administration’s disdain for the military is unparalleled in recent history.

          • crafte1too

            Very well stated Jenny! My parents were die hard Democrats in the years leading up to JFK. They raised me to be a Democrat but I know they are rolling over in their graves at their beloved party today. It is NOTHING like the party they belonged to. I am now a registered Republican, a moderate who leans toward conservatism, a Christian, and I love my country. I’m just sickened by what this Administration has and is doing to our country. I’ve been called a racist by my half-Mexican grand children whom I love dearly because I don’t condone homosexuality. This entire world is so screwed up I don’t think most people can tell whether they’re coming or going anymore.

          • El Camino

            Approx. 70 members of the house are flat out socialists. Probably all the black members & others. Being in the progressive party and all in with Obamacare just doesn’t make sense when you think about it from the “we were slaves” point of view. All Obamacare is, is modern day slavery. Master Obama and his ilk want to control us.
            Great post Jenny.

          • Steve Struemph

            Jenny, I’m sorry you feel that way. Wow. I don’t think people who disagree with the President are racist. There are a few bad apples, sure, but for the most part if people are critical of him it is because they don’t agree with his politics.

            The death penalty. I don’t really have a view on that one way or the other because I’ve not put much thought into it. Sometimes I think it’s not very Christian to kill someone. I don’t think it’s right. No matter what. But then other times I think some people are just evil. Most aren’t but some are. And keeping them in prison is expensive. Putting them to death saves money. But putting them to death seems wrong.

            Abortion. You’re asking why liberals are ok with murdering unborn babies at any stage of pregnancy. That is simply untrue. Liberals are not like that. Some people might be willing to abort a pregnancy at an early stage due to health reasons, financial reasons, or being unable to raise a child, or afford to give birth and put it up for adoption. In the long run, this saves you from having to support a child that might end up on welfare or you might have to support a single mom with food stamps. Conservatives don’t like people who mooch. So in some ways a responsible woman can make the choice early on to protect herself by not becoming a parent if she isn’t ready or able to provide a good life for the child. But, really, calling liberals a bunch of baby murderers is not fair. That is b.s.

            Scandals of the Obama administration. Which ones? You act like there are thousands and thousands of them. Be specific.

            Elijah Cummings IRS Scandal: Are you referring to the IRS targeting Conservative groups who wanted tax exemptions? I don’t know much about that but it would seem to me that a political organization shouldn’t get tax exemption. I have to pay taxes, why don’t they?

            Liberals are socialists. There are aspects of socialism in how our government operates but socialism is a social and economy system not a form of government. Some socialist principles might work and if something works for the greater good why not do it? I don’t get this blind hatred of things like socialism. But I don’t really know much about it. I’m no expert. Either way, even if we adopt pieces of socialism that work, I certainly don’t think this country will one day suddenly be a socialist system.

            More soldiers are dead under Obama than Bush. Interesting. I didn’t know that. Considering that I don’t like war unless it is really necessary and I don’t agree with Iraq/Afghanistan war to begin with… I’d agree with you that that sucks.

            The national debt has increased so much under Obama. That’s not totally his doing. Come on now. So the first day he came into office the debt was just going to go down considerably on its own but yet he did stuff to make it go way up? Really? In your opinion there’s no possibly slim chance that the debt was skyrocketing because of things that Bush did? Not even a slim chance? Be honest now.

            Obama has armed our enemies. What happened? I know there was the stupid idea of giving guns to the cartel or something. But other than that what are you talking about?

            And lastly, all liberals truely have turned their back on this country and just hate it? They disrespect the flag and they think that all historical decisions of our past generations were wrong? Just to protect our party we are selling out our country? This is very interesting and completely false. I have beliefs, values, and views just the same as you do even though they differ. I also love my family, my community, I own a home, I run a business being self-employed and pay taxes. I support local business when I can. I am outraged by the NSA. I wish we had single payer health care system. I love the innovation in this country in terms of technology, hollywood, and just the melting pot of culture. Who doesn’t love New York City? Pizza? Baseball? And recently… soccer? We almost had the World Cup! Almost. So no, my friend, if you think that liberals hate their country and just want to ruin it… I suggest you seek out therapy. Or just find a liberal, give him a hug, and find that there are good people out there. Or maybe do some meditation and figure out where that hatred is coming from. Are you reading blogs that are hateful towards liberals? TV shows? Radio shows? Something has to be influencing that because just walking down the street you interact with lots of liberals and do they seem to be raging hateful anti-american people? Wake up.

          • Shawn Singer

            I agree with you and the only thing I would like to add is that is what a lot of liberals I have disagreed with in conversations do to conservatives and Christians. They figure that anyone who calls themselves a conservative or christian must be no matter what they do, and you can’t tell them different.

      • bob

        we got 3 sides now which doesn’t help. liberals, conservatives, and Trolls

    • El Camino

      Somehow their common sense was removed. That seems to be pretty prevalent these days. I think they have so many overlapping issues that they cannot get straight in their minds. Maybe they are in a union, but they own a gun, and they consider themselves Christian, but they think abortion is OK…etc. Too many conflicts for them to deal with. They want to follow the Obama mindset….but it doesn’t make sense.

  • Douglas Dandridge

    I find the whole thing distasteful in the respect that we can’t have civil conversations without resorting to threats and name calling. I called myself a liberal when I was in college, right after a stint in the Army. That was when liberal meant being for equality and freedom of thought. Today I am pro-choice (with reservations, thinking abortion should be the last choice), pro death penalty (with reservations, only for the most dangerous people that we don’t want out on the streets), pro social services (with reservations that they should really need the services and have no other way out) and strong second amendment (with no reservations except that criminals shouldn’t have them, and I should be able to). I am also a science fiction writer, and many people I have talked to have said that when they have gone to conventions the conservative writers were the more welcoming of dissenting view points, and more willing to discuss them. Funny thing is that some of these conservatives also identified themselves as liberals before the term took on the connotations of flippen insane socialist who demand lock step thinking. And it’s funny how the people who are against violence seem to be the very ones who scream for it when someone disagrees with them. Though of course someone else needs to commit the violence, since they are too cowardly to shoot their own dog. I served in the military so that everyone could have their own opinion, and not so they could crush the opinion of others under dogma. Not sure if it will ever get any better, or if we are destined to Balkanize in the future into two or more countries. I definitely will not want to be in the progressive one, even if I still have disagreements with some conservatives.

    • Missy Moo

      Well said, Liberals are the least liberal people on the planet… Same with the stupid Target ruling. I have carried a gun in Target for years. Nobody in there knew I had a gun and life went on. But the “Think of the Children” brigade have completely freaked out about a photo of a couple of knuckleheads with AR’s slung over their shoulders and now it looks like I won’t be shopping there again. Why can’t they take the middle ground and ban people open-carrying in their stores instead of banning firearms altogether. There is no common sense any more. Oh, and my husband agrees with you, women with guns are hot, especially if they know how to use them!

      • Genesis Williamson

        Don’t worry, Target only “respectfully requests” that you not carry in their store. They won’t say they are outright banning them. Carry on!

        • Davethebrave

          The old saying, out of sight, ought of mind. Never broadcast or tell anyone that you have CCW permit and carry. If you need it, it is there. Amen

          • CrazyAuntJane

            I would never “open carry” in a dept store, mostly out of respect for people’s feeling and also I’d prefer to keep my personal property private, just like I don’t run around with my wallet open showing hm cash! As long as Target only “respectfully requests” nothing will change as far as I’m concerned. BTW I have no problem with any place asking people not to “open carry”.

      • Charles Batchelor

        I understand why TX Open Carry supporters are doing what they are doing, it’s illegal to open carry handguns there and they want that changed. So right now, they can only open carry rifles.

        • Missy Moo

          But why do they need to Open Carry? To me it’s just showing off. Keep it under wraps so that you don’t frighten people, but you still have it if you need it for any reason.

          • LibertyPrime

            Because if people start seeing them everywhere it starts becoming a normal fact of life again. Anti-gun nuts want you to hide your guns because then they can show outrage at how “bizarre” it is due to its rarity.

            The left has steering and pushing on the gas since forever and the right seems only concerned with operating the brake, so we just keep heading further into anti-gun nut territory.

            This is not a successful strategy. You have to push back. If they push for banning handguns, you push for legalizing automatic weapons. Don’t be on the defensive trying to prove why you should be able to do something, be on the offense making them prove why you shouldn’t.

            And that’s why you need to open carry your rifles. The fact that people consider it bizarre is proof enough that the anti-gun left has succeeded in shoving gun owners into the closet.

            Once people see others carrying everywhere, they’ll have to learn to adjust and get over their fears. The cops will also stop investigating their calls and harassing people because it looks “unusual”.

          • was*thisjustin

            Civilized society prefers the average person not to be armed. Unfortunately, we have to deal with paranoid conservatives, always afraid some liberal is going to try to take away your weapons. Face it, the nations current gun laws are still allowing emotionally distraught people and the mentally deranged the ability to procure weapons and kill people. THAT is a problem, and it does not get solved by having more weapons out there.

            I have no fear of weapons. But the people who think they need a firearm simply for self defense are the people who scare society. And facts still show that homes with guns have more gun deaths than those without guns. An un-uniformed man with a gun is a man with a gun. I have no way of telling whose a good guy and whose a bad guy. How can anyone feel safe in that environment?

        • was*thisjustin

          Yeah right. Guys with big guts and big guns, only protesting that they cannot open carry handguns?!? Bullshit. They wanted to scare people.

      • was*thisjustin

        How so are liberals the least liberal on the planet? Because we are uncomfortable around those who feel the need to be armed? Call it paranoia of the paranoid, or those who believe a gun means they get whatever they want.

        • Missy Moo

          They are the least liberal because they want to take away the freedoms that don’t suit them from other people, but then want to impose their own will on people when it’s something that suits them whether it’s in the Constitution or not.

          • was*thisjustin

            Ok Missy, which freedom are we liberals trying to take from you? And what “own will” are we trying to impose on you?

            Hint: the answer to the first question is NONE, and the answer to the second question is NONE.

            Now, let’s look at what freedoms conservatives are trying to take away from others: The right to marry the consenting adult of your choice, the right to freedom of religious expression of any religion other than Christianity (how would you have felt if Hobby Lobby was run by devout Muslims?), the right to control of our own bodies (mostly referring to women, in this case). Heck, that was just a few examples, the actual list is much longer.

          • Michael L Clark

            We have no problem with you, controlling your own bodies. the key is why should I, you or anyone else expect, my your or their employer, to pay for my your or their promiscuity. Always looking for a hand out. You should not have to pay any part of my sexual misdeeds. If I go out and go without protection should you be responsible? They were willing to cover 16 out of 20 contraceptives. Just not the ones, that ends life. As far as abortions go, your mother chose to keep you. Wrong choice on her part. It is time to put on your big boy pants or big girl panties and act like a responsible adult. stop begging for hand outs

          • was*thisjustin

            Drunk commenting again? Sucks to be you!

          • Michael L Clark

            see there you go again making comments calling me drunk when you have a problem understanding or you just don’t know how to respond. here’s an Idea, enroll yourself into some of that common core crap only a backwards thinking liberal can understand it.

          • was*thisjustin

            Yet again, your writing is so bad I assumed you were drunk. why would I write a lengthy response to a drunk?

            You do not understand how health insurance works, which is why you made such incorrect comments. And none of the contraceptives they singled out *ends* a life. Them believing that it does is not good enough for anyone except the conservatives on the SCOTUS.

            My parents planned me, and it was a wise choice on their part, as I am the one who provides them with a roof and food. You see, my wife and I BOTH make good money :-) That’s the nice thing about having a good education, it gets you a good job.

            You, on the other hand, seem to have only embarrassed your parents, if you knew them at all. If they actually were proud of you, they must not have expected much from you in life.

          • Michael L Clark

            Doesn’t take much, to be an educated idiot. well done sir. You have earned the title of educated fool. What is the point of being book smart, if you have no common sense to use it. And none of the contraceptives they singled out *ends* a life. ” And, ” since when does a conjunction start off a sentence. oh you hypocrite I thought you told me you were god, knower of all. I see all that knowledge you possess is just borrowed. Don’t throw no more bad english at me, it makes you look stupid.

            Always happy to talk to someone who expects others to take care of them. The idea of me having another person pay for my or my wife’s contraceptives other than myself is pure lunacy.

            Health insurance? Would you like to talk about Actuarial science. I’ll be glad to destroy you. I use to sell insurance. I quit because of the pressure sales. Hard to continually push people to buy insurance they do not want.

            I see now, who does not understand insurance.
            yes my mother was proud of me and my democrat step father killed her, when I was 14. Glad you asked.

          • was*thisjustin

            Here’s the thing, you cannot accuse a person of being an “educated idiot” until you show the idiocy, and you have yet to show that. Beyond your feeble attempts to insult me, I have proved you wrong on every point. That makes you the idiot, and not even an educated idiot. Sucks to be you!

            You have yet to learn how to properly respond to a post. You need to quote my comments, so all involved have an understanding of what it is you are trying to communicate.

            “Always happy to talk to someone who expects others to take care of them.” – Who would that be? Me?!? We make a very good living. Heck, we own 3 houses! I expect no one to take care of me, I do it very well all by myself.

            “The idea of me having another person pay for my or my wife’s contraceptives other than myself is pure lunacy.” – Again, you show your ignorance. Try looking up how insurance actually works, rather than how you think it works.

            You used to sell insurance, but yet have no understanding of how it works?!? Truly sad. So, you have worked selling insurance and now work as a CO. Two jobs that require nothing but a high school education, and it shows in your case.

            “yes my mother was proud of me and my democrat step father killed her, when I was 14. Glad you asked.” – Glad for your mother didn’t live long enough to be embarrassed by the failure that you turned out to be. And what about your step-fathers political persuasion caused him to kill your mother?

            You continue to disappoint…

          • Michael L Clark

            oK fill me in on how insurance works. then I’ll come back and educate you

          • Michael L Clark

            Here’s the thing, you cannot accuse a person of being an “educated idiot” until you show the idiocy, and you have yet to show. that.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

          • was*thisjustin

            Dude, you have got to stop taking the inmates drugs. It’s messing up your head. BTW, the youtube link links to http://www.youtube.com, nothing else. Fail on your part.

          • Michael L Clark

            i resent it. I see you refuse to explain to me all the knowledge of insurance you possess

          • was*thisjustin

            “i resent it.” – You mean you resemble it.

            “I see you refuse to explain to me all the knowledge of insurance you possess” – Until I have more time, cannot provide you with the info.

        • Michael L Clark

          oh, stop it with the the spooky gun stories. That’s how conspiracy theories get started.

          • was*thisjustin

            Says the conspiracy theorist.

            Stop drunk commenting me!

          • Michael L Clark

            was*thisjustin. talk about being drunk, what kind of name are you hiding behind? I see your too ugly to post a real pic, Must be dangerous to the public. Police warned you already huh? Hey I have mine (theories) and you have nothing intelligible. so let’s call it even and say good night

          • was*thisjustin

            As the vast majority of the commenters have no pic to post, your accusations ring dumb. Do you swear your not drunk while typing these comments? Everything about your writing is atrocious, from your grammar to your sentence construction. It makes little sense.

          • Michael L Clark

            dumb? This coming from a vacuous, self loving Idiot. You can not understand? The only people who say, they do not understand, are the people who have nothing to say to support themselves.
            There you are following those you call a vast majority.

            The people, who do not put up pictures, usually have something to hide . If you do not have pictures to post, then you are either, not smart enough to know how to post them, or you do not have the equipment to take pictures and post. If that is so? All that money you claim you make and all that knowledge is a lie. I have nothing to hide. My picture and my name are there to show I’m as real as it gets. Liars like to keep their identity sealed.

          • was*thisjustin

            Wow, you used more words that you don’t understand! It does not make you seem smarter to use words incorrectly.

            “The only people who say, they do not understand, are the people who have nothing to say to support themselves.” – Ok, this sentence right here. Neither of the commas is grammatically appropriate. Learn to write the damned language!

            “The people, who do not put up pictures, usually have something to hide .” – Beyond the poor sentence construction (yet again), you are totally incorrect. I simply choose not to worry about my icon. Fact is every sentence in that so-called paragraph has poor punctuation. You do NOT know the English language. Mumbling nonsense on your part.

            People like you are part of the problem with our CJ system. You show nothing but ignorance, even when you think you are showing intelligence.

          • Michael L Clark

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5t8GdxFYBU again he said, “I promise 5 days to look at a bill before I signed it.

            “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.

            a simple moron knows, that was a lie, your an IDIOT. NOW call me stupid and lie your way out. make excuses that is all you know how to do

          • was*thisjustin

            “a simple moron knows, that was a lie, your an IDIOT. NOW call me stupid and lie your way out. make excuses that is all you know how to do”

            Yet again, witless one, you do not understand what a “lie” is. And no intelligent person would use that example to accuse someone of being an “IDIOT”. Just makes you look dumber than you’ve already shown yourself to be.

            I have yet to make an excuse, so that is wrong as well.

            Do you have anything of intelligence to contribute to any conversation? Highly doubtful.

          • Michael L Clark

            so by Obama stating you will have 5 days to look on line at a bill before I sign it was a promise. he did not keep it

            “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.
            ( Affordable care Act)

            OK smart ass, why is that not a lie?

            I bet you will use rhetoric to explain.

          • was*thisjustin

            Let me ask you a question, you mental midget, did Obama purposely make a statement he knew not to be true? That is the only case where he would be considered to by lying (As that is how lying works. A lie is making a statement you know to not be true).

          • was*thisjustin

            Please provide a coherent comment.

          • Michael L Clark
          • was*thisjustin

            Why?

          • Michael L Clark

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE-i6XQK7JY

            wow Bill Maher on liberals, finally

          • was*thisjustin

            Yup, I watch him every Friday night. I agree with most of what Bill Maher said. The only thing I disagree with, considering my previous work with classified information, is that I would say that Bill Maher is a wee bit ignorant on this subject. Happens to everyone.

          • Michael L Clark

            oh so now your the expert.

          • was*thisjustin

            Did I say I was an expert? No. Do I know something about the topic based on serving is the US military and having a security clearance? Yes.

          • Michael L Clark

            you call me names? at least when I see someone lie time and again I acknowledge it. you brush it off and accept it. you’re an IDIOT. You Bad mouth me, when I am one of the people who help keep Idiots like you safe from your own kind.

            If you can not debate facts and feel the need to refer to grammer as a scapegoat, then you’re the one with problems. Hell your to stupid to understand that children who follow bad people are naive and gullible to the bad persons intent. you call them Homosexuals. Sad that you call little children homosexuals. If you’re that stupid, just shut up and quit with the rhetorical babble you think makes sense. Sorry your mother didn’t exercise her rights to abortion.

          • was*thisjustin

            “you call me names?” – As many times as you called me a name. Probably less.

            “at least when I see someone lie time and again I acknowledge it.” – I have no idea what you are referring to.

            “You Bad mouth me, when I am one of the people who help keep Idiots like you safe from your own kind.” – ROFLMAO! You do nothing for me that I could not do for myself. You work a job that anyone with a GED could do. You do NOT impress me.

            Tell me, did yo serve your country? I did, to keep all American citizens safe, not just the ones who agree with me.

            “f you can not debate facts and feel the need to refer to grammer as a scapegoat, then you’re the one with problems.” – First of all, you have to give me actual facts to debate. You give me nothing but falsehoods and outright lies. Secondly, poor grammar and improper use of words makes it difficult to figure out exactly what point you are trying to make at times. Stop blaming others for your inability to properly communicate.

            “Hell your to stupid to understand that children who follow bad people are naive and gullible to the bad persons intent. you call them Homosexuals.” – Wow, your idiocy knows no bounds, I see. That sentence makes ZERO sense.

            You are a mental midget. And for someone who is so against abortion, it is amazing how often you bring up that others should have an abortion. Conservative hypocrisy at its best!

            Tell you what, not that I expect that you will, but get a *real* education and come back to me with accurate information, rather than your lies and deception. You ought to be ashamed at yourself for your comments. Too bad you are to ignorant to understand that.

          • Michael L Clark

            Hell your to stupid to understand that children who follow bad people are naive and gullible to the bad persons intent. you call them Homosexuals.” – Wow, your idiocy knows no bounds, I see. That sentence makes ZERO sense.

            are you really that stupid? why would a child except candy from strangers? because children, are by nature trusting.
            why do I compare democrats to children, because they put their trust into bad people.
            if you can not understand that you are truly an Idiot

          • was*thisjustin

            You call me stupid when you cannot even create a coherent sentence?!?

            Again, go get an education and come back when you can show more than ignorance. And face it, you stopped selling insurance because you were no good at it.

          • Michael L Clark

            no wrong I out sold 20 other agents in a 3 month period.there were 21 of us. On a average sale, you have to ask people to buy at least 7 times.

            because you will not understand, let me talk to you like I do with children.

            MR Jackass, does this look like something you would be interested in.

            you tell me, no or let me think about it.

            MR Jackass maybe I didn’t make it clear enough for you. Would it be worth it to you, knowing your family is covered.

            yes but I don’t have the money, so no

            Mr Jackass, if you find it hard to come up with premiums, how do you think you will pay if something were to happen.?

            In other words on average, I would have to make you tell me no 7 times, before you commit or I leave. either way you will be pissed That I kept after you to buy.

            MR Jackass I know you are the type who can piss people off day after day and it doesn’t bother you. You are liberal. It is in your nature.

            Like I said, you know what I am saying, you just refuse to let common sense work on your side.

            you still do not answer my questions. side stepping all the way.

          • was*thisjustin

            Thank you for that lesson on telephone sales. You know the great thing about selling insurance the way you sold it? It requires no brains.

            I must say, however, that you found the perfect job for yourself. Infantrymen in the US Army are not required to have a brain, and neither are CO’s.

            What was the question I did not answer?

          • Michael L Clark

            OK MR Jackass, you win. you are a hypocrite and a liar. I have worked. 2 jobs that make less money then you do. yet they command more integrity then you will ever have.

            I never said I talked to them on the phone. As a matter of fact, i ran a debit. I went from house to house face to face. The conversations I had were more in depth then I have time to type.

            I must say, however, that you found the perfect job for yourself. Infantrymen in the US Army are not required to have a brain, and neither are CO’s.

            This is an out and out, I am better than you statement. You sir are a LIAR.

            You judged me on something you had no idea about. you assumed I sold over the phone. just like a liberal.

            You sir down talk the infantry because your a Pussy. there is nothing noble about you.

            What was the question I did not answer?

            5 days to look it over on line before I sign a bill.
            “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.

            If that is not a lie then you are too stupid to talk to

          • was*thisjustin

            “OK MR Jackass, you win. you are a hypocrite and a liar. I have worked. 2 jobs that make less money then you do. yet they command more integrity then you will ever have.” – ROFLMAO. Your jobs require more “integrity” than my work? Heck, why don’t you look up what that word means, to realize how dumb you are for using in that phrase.

            “I never said I talked to them on the phone. As a matter of fact, i ran a debit. I went from house to house face to face. The conversations I had were more in depth then I have time to type.” – A door-to-door salesman?!? Excuse me while I laugh some more!

            “I must say, however, that you found the perfect job for yourself. Infantrymen in the US Army are not required to have a brain, and neither are CO’s.
            This is an out and out, I am better than you statement. You sir are a LIAR.”

            You continue to entertain! NOTHING in that statement says “I’m better than you”, NOTHING!

            “You judged me on something you had no idea about. you assumed I sold over the phone. just like a liberal.” – You serious with this shit?!? I didn’t realize that you had such a low-level job that you had to do it door-to-door. Forgive me for assuming to much! The list of incorrect assumptions you have made about me would fill a book :-)

            “You sir down talk the infantry because your a Pussy. there is nothing noble about you.” – Nope, because I dealt with plenty of 11B’s when I served, and they were all unintelligent. There is plenty “noble” about me. NO ONE can call you “noble”.

            “What was the question I did not answer?

            5 days to look it over on line before I sign a bill.
            “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.

            If that is not a lie then you are too stupid to talk to” – Ah, ok. But just to let you know, your judgement of what is a lie or not has already been shown to be faulty.

          • Michael L Clark

            how is it faulty. it was his promise and he signed the ACA BILL into law without letting anyone read it. you are an IDIOT the military would of never let you in. you have no common sense

          • was*thisjustin

            How is your judgement faulty? Just read your posts, and you will see.

            Dude, not only did I serve my country, but I got a huge bonus when I graduated from AIT, and would have received another huge bonus if I had re-upped. Instead I took the promotion to civilian, and started college about 8 weeks later :-) Now, infantrymen are a dime a dozen, and most are quite unintelligent.

          • Michael L Clark

            I got a bonus also. if you re-upped in the same mos, you would not have gotten another bonus. That is a fact. I was going to reenlist into the infantry for a $16,000 bonus. when I told them about the $5000 bonus for my first enlistment, they told me that would disqualify me for the bonus. Therefore if that is the case, you can stop trying to impress me with the BS again you are a waste of my time. you are a legend in your own mind.

          • was*thisjustin

            “if you re-upped in the same mos, you would not have gotten another bonus. That is a fact.” – Absolutely NOT a fact, you fool. I would only have received the bonus if I re-upped for the same MOS. Not that I could have done otherwise. They told me that, if I re-upped for a different MOS, they would still have me work my original MOS. It’s called a “critical MOS”.

            Infantry will never be a “critical MOS”, as any soldier can do it. They used to threaten us inAIT that if we failed, we’d all become infantrymen.

            Yep, your pea brain understands so little.

          • Michael L Clark

            wow i tried looking you up, but it is set to private. you’re afraid someone may see that you are a liar. your a pos. talking crap, but hiding anything that may reveal who you really are. YOUR an IDIOT JOKE. PLAYING with your G.I. Joe dolls does not constitute being in the military

          • was*thisjustin

            Yup, I set it to private. Got a problem with that, go complain to someone who cares.

            You wouldn’t be able to figure out who I was if I gave you my complete name, but I’m not doing that for you either. I do not trust conservatives such as yourself to not get angry and do stupid stuff.

            Sorry, dude, but I served my country faithfully, used my GI Bill to pay for college, used the GI Bill to guarantee my first mortgage, and proudly have my veterans plates on my car. None of this is accomplished without showing relevant authorities my DD-214.

            In other words, fuckoff. I didn’t question your pea brain when you told me you served.

            So now, run off like the angry little child you are.

          • Michael L Clark

            wow fuck off, you had to go there. yep that is where you go when you I done talking with the educated fool. take care and God bless

          • was*thisjustin

            “you make light of what I do for a living you deserve all your president has for you I’m done talking with the educated fool.” – It is easy to make fun of what you do for a living because it requires brawn and no brain.

            Funny thing is that you never once proved me to be an “educated fool”. Not that you could, though, because I’m no fool.

          • Michael L Clark

            Tell me, did yo serve your country? I did, to keep all American citizens safe, not just the ones who agree with me.
            Yes I did. In the army, in the infantry. I served in Berlin for 2 years and the rest at FT Carson. I served so Educated Idiots could ramble on about how intelligent they are and support immoral lifestyles. You Know, The ones who think their self worth is more than the average person. You have rosie o donnell syndrome.

            Let’s talk insurance. tell me a little about the mortality rate. How is it figured up? Why does insurance have a preexisting conditions clause in it. Would it be detrimental to insurance companies to cover people with these conditions.

            Insurance is there, in case misfortune happens in the future. the only way to cover people on the preexisting conditions is to have a one payer system. (The government.) If that happens, we will be taxed more than you care to be taxed.

            I know your smarter then me and you will have some form of dribble to write back. that will show you are not as learned as you think you IS.

          • was*thisjustin

            “I served so Educated Idiots could ramble on about how intelligent they are and support immoral lifestyles. You Know, The ones who think their self worth is more than the average person. You have rosie o donnell syndrome.”
            – Funny, I served so that all Americans continue to have their freedoms. That includes protecting morons like yourself. And what I find really entertaining is that conservatives (like yourself) always figure that those of us who are intelligent consider ourselves to be more important, though I have certainly never stated anything of the sort. And you are no one to judge the morality of someone else’s lifestyle.

            “Why does insurance have a preexisting conditions clause in it.” – Thanks to the ACA, it no longer does. Nuff said on that.

            “Insurance is there, in case misfortune happens in the future.” – Hey the first correct statement I’ve seen from you!

            “the only way to cover people on the preexisting conditions is to have a one payer system.” – Incorrect, but we SHOUD have a one payer system.

          • Michael L Clark

            prexisting conditions, look up how much it cost for someone dying of cancer, aids, MS, and many other ailments. then look at the length of time the premiums are paid. preexisting hhhmmm the answer would be none. Make sure you are intelligent enough to look up how many cases of each, per year. MR Smartass, now tell me where is that money coming from? Wow you are smart, it comes from the tax payers because the the premiums do not meet the cost. You’re a friggen Genius. oops sorry i didn’t see you can’t spell should. that is another incorrect for you.

            Incorrect, but we SHOUD have a one payer system.

            ACA does not take into account for preexisting conditions. It is designed to bankrupt the insurance companies, so Obama and go full blown communist/socialist.

            that was a real let down. I did think you were smart enough to know in order for it to work you have to pay in more then what is going out.

            do you self a favor. do the math. you almost had me thinking you could be intelligent. enuff said

          • was*thisjustin

            Dude, you trying to correct my simple spelling mistake while showing atrocious grammar, punctuation and reasoning is so truly funny!

            “prexisting conditions, look up how much it cost for someone dying of cancer, aids, MS, and many other ailments. then look at the length of time the premiums are paid. preexisting hhhmmm the answer would be none. Make sure you are intelligent enough to look up how many cases of each, per year. MR Smartass, now tell me where is that money coming from? Wow you are smart, it comes from the tax payers because the the premiums do not meet the cost. You’re a friggen Genius. oops sorry i didn’t see you can’t spell should. that is another incorrect for you.” – Wow, talk about a bunch of blather. The simple fact is that NOW, with American health insurance, there is no such thing as a pre-existing condition, which is awesome. Please don’t try to explain anything to me, as not only do you do it poorly, but I already understand.

            “ACA does not take into account for preexisting conditions. It is designed to bankrupt the insurance companies, so Obama and go full blown communist/socialist.” – I hardly consider your opinion to be that of an expert. You conservatives have been wrong on everything else, and you are wrong on this as well.

            “that was a real let down. I did think you were smart enough to know in order for it to work you have to pay in more then what is going out.” – WTF you talking about?

            “do you self a favor. do the math. you almost had me thinking you could be intelligent. enuff said” – Funny that a person who cannot even communicate in English (your native language, I assume) would call someone else unintelligent.

          • Michael L Clark

            Mr smartass you can never talk about some one being stupid you take the cake.

            No such thing as preexisting conditions? YOU”RE AN IDIOT.
            ACA only states they waive the clause. which means, you can obtain the insurance even if you have a deadly disease. You can have 1 million dollars in bills for cancer and only pay the first premium on your insurance before you die (an example). This would be a great offset

            would some one else please educate this dumb ass. He thinks you can have insurance on preexisting conditions and it will not make a difference, to the amount of money an insurance company has to pay out. He does not even know how insurance works. I Can not explain it to him because he is a educated moron.

            I thought you were smart enough to know, that in order for insurance to work, you have to pay in more money, then the amount of money going out for payment to the health provider.
            Now I bet you are too stupid to understand that.
            .

          • was*thisjustin

            “Mr smartass you can never talk about some one being stupid you take the cake.” – Negative, you do.

            “No such thing as preexisting conditions? YOU”RE AN IDIOT.” – Nope, again, that would be you. Given that you cannot be refused health insurance due to pre-existing conditions, there are NO pre-existing conditions!

            “would some one else please educate this dumb ass. He thinks you can have insurance on preexisting conditions and it will not make a difference, to the amount of money an insurance company has to pay out. He does not even know how insurance works. I Can not explain it to him because he is a educated moron.” – You do realize those voices are only in your head, correct?

            “I thought you were smart enough to know, that in order for insurance to work, you have to pay in more money, then the amount of money going out for payment to the health provider.” – First off, you are using too many commas again. Secondly, it is “than”, not “then”. Thirdly, as an individual? No.

            But you seem too stupid to understand how insurance works.

          • Michael L Clark

            you refuted nothing, just rhetorical babble that sounds good, but has nothing concrete in it. how do you make it through your doorway with that over inflated
            This is your Argument
            If I am elected President I will lower taxes for the middle class. I will also create new jobs and if I am elected president, There will be health care for everyone. That is it. No explanation of how.
            MY question: As president how do you plan to address these issues?
            YOU: I just told you. what’s wrong are you stupid?

            Again your too stupid to talk to You find every excuse to avoid answering questions. good bye and Godbless

          • Michael L Clark

            ME: Inmate, do not get off your bunk until count clears. that means for all counts

            INMATE: yes sir

            next day.

            ME: Inmate why are you off your bunk again.

            INMATE: I didn’t know you meant it for today also. you don’t make sense.

            ME: Inmate what is your name?

            INMATE: was*thisjustin

          • was*thisjustin

            Wow, the comparison is…. not there!

            Seeing as I refuted all your points, you changed the subject!

          • Michael L Clark

            to answer this last one. you knew what I was saying all along. Just easier for you to correct my, “ENGLISH GRAMMER.” to avoid answers you don’t have. If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, then Baffle them with bullshit. I have to say you have baffled me. tired of playing your insult game. take care and may God pour his blessings upon you

          • was*thisjustin

            First of all, when you use poor writing and grammar, it is easy for others to not understand your point. Secondly, it shows a lack of education.

            Sorry, dude, I was not avoiding anything. Simply put, if I cannot understand you due to your sentence construction, certainly hard to respond correctly.

            Funny, you started the insult game. I never find it useful.

            Have a good life.

    • bgilman45

      Amen Douglas.

    • bgilman45

      Oh one note though Douglas …. women with guns are NOT hot.
      Women with guns are just like women with a beer car or women smoking cigaretes …VULGAR.

      • Jack Perry

        troll

        • MisterE

          yup

        • bgilman45

          “Do not worry if the world hates you, for they hated me first.”
          It’s amazing to me that Jesus is so accurate all the time.

      • Skydog1

        Misogynist bigot

        • bgilman45

          Thats hysterical.
          Beyond hysterical.

      • Mark 2112

        as if you know what a woman is….and your mom doesn’t count.

        • bgilman45

          Married happily. My wife is awesome and another born again Christian.
          We have two fantastic grown sons, 22 and 20.
          One is a scholarship baseball player and soon-to-be cop.
          The other is an actor-musician.
          But feel free to keep making my point about the mean spiritedness of folks who claim to be Godly.
          I repeat …. an embarassment.

      • military wife and mom

        As a Grandmother, my gun saved my life many years ago. I was young with two small children and pregnant. Had I not had a loaded gun, immediately available (and knew how to shoot it real well), I have no doubt my children and I would be dead. So, at my age, I sure am not looking for HOT. I watch for safety and security!!!

        • bgilman45

          I’m glad you are ok.
          Prayer would have accomplished the same thing.
          God is far more powerful than any gun

        • Ragnar__Danneskjold

          The moron called a shotgun a rifle anyways.

      • MrDrT

        Guess they aren’t enlightened like you. You’re a cultural bigot.

        • bgilman45

          Nope … I just believe the Word of God… as written.

          • sickandtired

            I must’ve missed the part that says women with guns are vulgar…

          • bgilman45

            No that part was my opinion. Although it does speak of men being masculine and women being feminine.
            Personally, i prefer women who are women, instead of trying to be one of the guys.
            But again …. my preference.

      • Not Falling For It

        I wouldn’t go so far as to say they’re vulgar, but guns do not make a woman “hot.” She’s very pretty, no doubt, but that’s despite the guns, and not as a result of shooting a pink revolver or trying to look cool by holding up a rifle that’s obviously way too heavy for her to handle.

        • Kenry Ptrone

          It’s not a rifle. That’s a shotgun. And that shotgun is not very heavy at all. It’s mostly plastic. And women who know how to handle a weapon properly, definitely gains sexy points in my book.

          • El Camino

            You got that right Ptrone…sexy points galore. Many of the libs are against guns, don’t know anything about them…(they’re just bad) and they don’t want anyone to own them. They are truly the most intolerant people.

    • PMGKittVonKnox

      No you’re not “pro-choice”, you’re “pro-death”

      • Douglas Dandridge

        Fine, call it whatever makes you feel better, and I will call it what I want with no consideration whatsoever for your opinion. Have a wonderful life.

        • Michael L Clark

          he’s just mad his woman, is not hot carrying a gun. He lets her carry a broom incase she has to go somewhere.

          • PMGKittVonKnox

            Actually jackass, my wife, can out shoot me and I’m damn proud of that fact. You liberal hypocrites always talk about a fake “war on women”, yet ignore your own disgusting revolting misogyny you hurl at other people.

          • Barbara Tucker

            It would seem you are going down the liberal road of name calling, and hateful speech. It is easier to have a rational conversation without all that stuff. We are SUPPOSED to be better than that. I hope you keep posting but also hope that you remember semantics shades things in some folks minds. So your opinion is important – as is everyone posting here. If there are a million posters there will be a million different opinions. I don’t agree with all of them but I don’t lash out and speak before I think. Intolerance – no matter the subject – is never okay. Rational dissent should be the order of the day. Bless you. another pro-lifer.

          • Michael L Clark

            To be Honest I am not Liberal at all. I am against abortion. I am also against expectations of my employer to have to cover any of my sexual activities.I am against welfare fraud. I think people should learn to pay their own way. I believe in the 2nd amendment. I stand for everything liberals are against. I spent 4 years in the military to help keep people free to call each other jackasses I also believe Obama is a man of his word. He is giving us change. Not that good people like it. I only said, what i said, because Douglas was stating an opinion and it sounded like you were attacking him for it. I thought you were Liberal. Lighten up

          • was*thisjustin

            Yup, you are a definite conservative, spouting nonsense about every subject.

          • Michael L Clark

            Yup you are definitely a liberal, you like accepting candy from old men. Crawl back in your hole. Some conservative may actually make sense and your head will explode. Then again, you need to evolve a little longer, to understand reality. You’re use to the fairytale tickle me elmo life. You can believe a liberal, that flip flops on every issue and lies more, then Bill Clinton, than to see what is happening in The U.S. Take your adolescent politics and return to the bat cave for some more touchy feely BS rhetorical, ” He can’t be bad, he gives me candy” conversation.

          • was*thisjustin

            That the best you got there Mike? Not impressed. You conservatives like trying to insult people by implying or stating that they are gay. I could not care less. I understand reality just fine, it is conservatives who have no understanding of reality.

            “You can believe a liberal, that flip flops on every issue and lies more, then Bill Clinton, than to see what is happening in The U.S.”

            You studying at the Sarak Palin school of argument? That sentence makes ZERO sense.

            ‘Take your adolescent politics and return to the bat cave for some more touchy feely BS rhetorical, ” He can’t be bad, he gives me candy” conversation.’

            And I bet you thought responding while drunk was a GOOD idea! Sober up and respond with something intelligent.

          • Michael L Clark

            If I responded with something intelligent you would be the last to understand it. ok mr dim o cra,t why do you insist on following a liar that has lied over and over and over again? Obama stated bush was a bad leader. said any man who raises the debt limit,was a poor leader. Then as president, he has raised it how many times? As president he states,” As a senator you make promises you can’t keep, because as a president, you find out, you didn’t really understand it all, when you were a senator. Bad mouthing Bush the whole time. OK for him to raise it, but it makes bush a poor leader. can you say hypocrite? Sober up? here is something intelligent, the candy reference was nothing about being gay, it was about being naive and gullible. do you have gay issues? that would be a personal preference, which is none of my business. yes Obama flip flops a lot on issues, he tells more lies then B.Clinton. That’s ok with you. you close your ears and eyes to the truth and try to dismiss the truth. sara palin? alot smarter than Polsei. I do not Drink, gave it up in 92. you call me drunk. what is your excuse? just asking. BTW the ratio for incarcerated inmates would be 6 democrats to every 1 republican. That alone speaks volumes

          • was*thisjustin

            Sorry, dude, I’m a registered Independent, and you could not come back with an intelligent response if your life depended upon it.

            I do not “follow” a liar. I VOTED for President Obama twice, because he was better than the other choices. I don’t follow anyone.

            Bush absolutely was a poor leader. He mistook stubbornness for decisiveness, made many many bad decisions, and then stated that his mind was made up no matter what new information came.

            Which president did NOT raise the debt limit?

            And every thing he stated about senator/president was correct. Again, Bush was such a bad leader that it was easy to bad mouth him on a whole variety of topics.

            “here is something intelligent, the candy reference was nothing about being gay, it was about being naive and gullible.”

            Bullshit. That is a homosexual reference if ever I saw one.

            Obama has not been telling lies. You just don’t believe anything he says. Those are NOT the same things. I would not pit Sarah Palin against my teenager daughter in the smartness category.

            I assumed you were drunk due to your lousy spelling, sentence structure, punctuation and logic. Turns out this is you sober! Good thing you stopped drinking.

            “BTW the ratio for incarcerated inmates would be 6 democrats to every 1 republican.”

            You think there are many registered voters in prisons?!? The average person who goes to prison is not political at all. The fact that you think otherwise speaks volumes.

          • Michael L Clark

            Obama has not been telling lies. You just don’t believe anything he says.
            If you want to keep your insurance, you can keep it. if you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor. period. This is what the FBI calls a clue and lie.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5t8GdxFYBU The FBI calls this a Clue and a lie.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU The FBI calls this a clue which proves Obama is a Liar.

            WE Did not get 5 days to view it. are you stupid enough to support a bill, that you do not know what is in it? You sir are an idiot.

            Bullshit. That is a homosexual reference if ever I saw one.

            This shows how slow you really are. If a pedophile offers a child candy, to coerce that child to go with him/her to do evil to the child and that child follow the pedophile for the candy reward, does that make the child a homosexual? Only an Idiot would say yes. Again I have no interest in your sexual preference.

            Lousy spelling? Blame Webster, and spell check. must be your slowness because I use both.

            You think there are many registered voters in prisons?
            Again you are totally lost. When polled prisoners say they support Democrat views. when watching news they get upset at anyone opposing the democrat party. I know this first hand. I am a correctional officer.

            You lack of knowledge and understanding. I have no tolerance for Liars and people who chose to be ignorant. I Placed the lies in your face and you still say they are not lies. You’re a waste of time

          • was*thisjustin

            You certainly fit the profile for a CO, under educated and ignorant.

            You have no understanding of what a “lie” is. A person is only lying if they knowingly tell you something that is not true. If they truly believe what they are saying is true, it is NOT a lie. You are probably too slow to understand that concept.

            “WE Did not get 5 days to view it. are you stupid enough to support a bill, that you do not know what is in it? You sir are an idiot.” – Wow, your bar for idiocy is so low that you don’t even get over it. Try to show me a bill that all congress critters have read in it’s entirety. You cannot.

            You somehow consider it *my* “slowness” because you have lousy spelling and grammar? Sorry dude, I am so much more intelligent than you, and I know the English language (as well as some others).

            “Again you are totally lost. When polled prisoners say they support Democrat views.” – Your example shows just how truly unintelligent you are. You do realize that a convicted felon cannot vote? Supporting a viewpoint is a far cry from voting.

            “You lack of knowledge and understanding.” – Ok, right there your wonderful computer let you down. Proper grammar would not have “of” in the sentence.

            You accusing me of a lack of knowledge and understanding is too funny! I guess my three degrees (one in Criminal Justice even!), fluency in multiple languages, and great job (requiring an actual education, unlike yours) are screaming of a lack of knowledge and understanding.

            You sir, are an un/under-educated person, and it is offensive that you think you have a better understanding of anything at all, given all the ignorance you spew in every post.

          • Michael L Clark

            self proclaimed intelligence sorry dude, you have the mindset of an inmate. you accuse me of not using proper english, and when I point out to the grammer police his failures to use proper english, he fails to comment on it.
            let’s talk about insurance, hero. Let’s see what you actually know. Educated FOOL at best. I Have no time for someone who is less then an idiot. YOU are stupid beyond belief. It does not matter if a felon can vote, scratch his ass. pick his nose, or act like an ass, the point being is this, democrats believe in abortion, so do felons. democrats believe in, socialistic/ communistic values so do felons. democrats believe in hand outs, so do felons. democrats love to lie, so do felons. democrats only hear what they want to hear, so do felons. democrats believe in raising the minimum wage, so do felons. democrats believe others should pay the way. so do felons, and on and on and on.

            Your the type of person that tells people, democrats are smarter then republicans. The proof is the majority of poor people are democrat. the majority of people on welfare are democrat.

            Proof is, you can not have it both ways. tired of talking to a FOOL

          • was*thisjustin

            “you accuse me of not using proper english, and when I point out to the grammer police his failures to use proper english, he fails to comment on it.” – Let’s see, it’s “English”, “grammar”, and you need to maintain either “you” or “he” the entire time, not both. So, a few fails just in that one sentence. Your comment about starting a sentence with “And” was not even worth a reply.

            “let’s talk about insurance, hero. Let’s see what you actually know.” – I don’t see you actually talking about it.

            “I Have no time for someone who is less then an idiot. YOU are stupid beyond belief.” – Coming from a truly uneducated and ignorant fool such as yourself, this IS a real insult.

            “It does not matter if a felon can vote, scratch his ass. pick his nose, or act like an ass…” – Incorrrect. If a person cannot vote, their political views are unimportant.

            And to correct some of your serious misperceptions:

            NO ONE “believes” in abortion. It is not something to believe in or not. It is a legal medical procedure that women have the right to choose. liberals, and Democrats (I am not a Democrat) agree that women should have the right to choose what goes on with their body. Why should it be otherwise?

            “democrats believe in, socialistic/ communistic values” – Um, no. Socialists and Communists do.

            “democrats believe in hand outs” – Nope, wrong again.

            “democrats love to lie” – What a joke. You have zero to back that up. I can show you daily occurrences of conservatives lying. You yourself are lying when you write that.

            “democrats only hear what they want to hear” – This is one of the funniest things you have written yet.

            “democrats believe in raising the minimum wage” – This is a bipartisan issue. Intelligent people want to raise the minimum wage because it will help the economy.

            “democrats believe others should pay the way” – Yet another ridiculous comment. I guarantee that I pay way more in taxes than you do, especially given that I make more than you do.

            “You’re the type of person that tells people, democrats are smarter then republicans.” – No, I am the type who believes that Liberals are smarter than Conservatives. Considering this has been scientifically validated, it is easy to believe.

            “The proof is the majority of poor people are democrat. the majority of people on welfare are democrat. how do I know that,because they live off the system. They vote for anyone who will give them freebies. As long as the lie makes them feel good inside, the LIAR gets their vote.” – Your comment shows an extreme amount of ignorance.

            Sorry dude, you have now demonstrated that you know so little.

          • Michael L Clark

            sorry moron, it shows that felons have the same values you do. you’re just to stupid to understand it. it means you think like a felon thinks. not that A felon can’t vote. I know they can not vote. For someone who claims to be smart, You have a hard problem understanding the simple stuff. YOU and PRISONERS have the same values. LIKE MINDED. YOU are the educated FOOL

          • was*thisjustin

            Listen, you mental midget, you name some ridiculous things that you say that all “democrats” and felons believe, none of which are true about Democrats in general, nor me in particular. Given that I’m not a Democrat, I have no idea why you keep focused on that.

            “For someone who claims to be smart, You have a hard problem understanding the simple stuff.” – YOU have a lard time understanding the simple stuff, dude. Why worry about how someone who cannot vote would vote if they could?!? And given that I have not demonstrated that I have the same value as prisoners, you have yet to show anything at all.

            YOU are an UNEDUCATED FOOL, and PROUDLY IGNORANT. See, I can yell too.

          • Michael L Clark

            They vote for anyone who will give them freebies. As long as the lie makes them feel good inside, the LIAR gets their vote.” – Your comment shows an extreme amount of ignorance. OK enlighten me.

          • was*thisjustin

            “They vote for anyone who will give them freebies.” – Who is this mysterious group of people who will vote for anyone who will give them freebies, and what so-called freebies are they getting?

            Your comment as a whole makes ZERO sense, you mental midget.

          • Michael L Clark

            No, I am the type who believes that Liberals are smarter than Conservatives. Considering this has been scientifically validated, it is easy to believe.

            you get that from where? liberal sites. good for you

            Some new ideas are tried out and prove to be perfectly awful. Communism is an example. Intelligent persons have realized that Communism harms the very folk it was purported to help. Communism has not been incorporated into the conservative mind-set. Those who cling to the concept of Communism are called liberals. No matter what their IQ, these folks are dummies. Fortunately most of their card-carrying fellow-travelers have seen the light as they aged and now believe in more conservative ideas.

          • was*thisjustin

            “you get that from where? liberal sites. good for you” – You do realize that comments are best understood when quotation marks and proper punctuation is involved? And I definitely would not have gotten that from a conservative site.

            “Some new ideas are tried out and prove to be perfectly awful. Communism is an example. Intelligent persons have realized that Communism harms the very folk it was purported to help.” – Tell that to China.

            “Communism has not been incorporated into the conservative mind-set.” – Correction, not been fully incorporated into the conservative mindset.

            “Those who cling to the concept of Communism are called liberals.” – No, they are called ‘Communists’.

            “No matter what their IQ, these folks are dummies.” – Yet again, look at China. They are doing quite well, economically.

            “Fortunately most of their card-carrying fellow-travelers have seen the light as they aged and now believe in more conservative ideas.” – Utterly unprovable.

            Any more ignorance to come from you?

          • Michael L Clark

            wow what a rant, you are stupid. I see how communist live around the world. only a fool would want to live like that. Jim Jones was a liberal democrat he was communist had liberals follow him to Jones town to drink the koolade. He had president Carter backing him as a religious leader. 910 people died following him. you drink the koolade I will stick to the tea

            China doing well. You’re a joke. if the United States will quit buying all their crap they will fold. we are one of the reasons they are doing as well as they are.

            Mr Smartass why is America as great as it is today? wait I know this one, because we are socialist. good night MR Smartass

          • was*thisjustin

            “wow what a rant, you are stupid.” – Says the mental midget.

            “I see how communist live around the world. only a fool would want to live like that.” – Ok, where have you been that you have seen how Communists live. You’ve been to China? Where in China did you go? Did you visit Russia? I can tell you from experience that Russia only has quasi-communism now.

            How the heck do you bring Jim Jones into this conversation? And what does the death of a cult leader in Guyana have to do with our current “conversation”. You are one messed-in-the-head dude.

            “China doing well. You’re a joke. if the United States will quit buying all their crap they will fold. we are one of the reasons they are doing as well as they are.” – You should stay away from international topics, as it is immediately obvious you are out of your depths.

            “Mr Smartass why is America as great as it is today?” – America is not particularly great today, you mental midget. That has everything to do with Republican obstructionism.

            So long, dumbass.

          • was*thisjustin

            Where’s the misogyny? I read his comment twice and don’t see it. Do you know what the word even means?

        • PMGKittVonKnox

          It still makes you a supporter of murdering human beings.

          • Douglas Dandridge

            You really area a hateful little snot, aren’t you? If it makes you feel better to think that way, go right on ahead. I lose no sleep over your opinions. If you had even read my first post, you would have seen that I do not support abortion as a first choice for birth control, but only in a restricted set of circumstances. I would not make a woman carry a fetus left in her by a rapist, nor one that endangers her health. Of course, someone like you probably has problems reading someone elses opinion because you are in a constant rage over everything.

          • CrazyAuntJane

            No idiot, it means that I don’t intend to be the one murdered without the means to protect myself and my family! I hope I’m never put in the position of harming another human being, I usually don’t even squish bugs, but I WILL defend myself and you and you liberal, brain-dead, elitist, snobs had better remember it!

          • Steve Struemph

            Yes… let the hate floooowww through you. Gooood. Gooood.

          • CrazyAuntJane

            You make no sense at all! How is hate flowing though me when I say I will defend myself! Progressivism is a mental disorder!

          • gracekelley

            Calling someone an idiot or names in general in a discussion board in the internet shows low intelligence. I may agree with your beliefs but it’s hard to make someone understand your beliefs if your a supposed Christian at the same time can’t control your emotions and resort to hateful comments and name calling over opinions. Seriously step away from the keyboard.

          • CrazyAuntJane

            I guess I have a very low intelligence then because I consider anyone who advocates killing babies and then calls it “pro-death” if I say I will defend myself, an idiot!

          • was*thisjustin

            Your name says it all. You are crazy. You are paranoid of everyone who is not a conservative. And how can we be elitist snobs if we are brain dead liberals? Being an elitist snob requires money, and it is hard to be brain-dead and rich.

          • Uncle Sam

            Well, it’s simple, some human beings deserve it..

      • crafte1too

        Pro-choice means you believe a woman has the right over her own body and whether to choose to abort or not to abort. Pro-life means you don’t believe in abortions at all. Pro-death would mean you only support abortion without other options.

        • Kirby Ramsey

          unfortunately, the definitions used to closer to what you say but have shifted to now being closer to: prochoce = every woman has the right to force or compel others to pay for her abortion whenever or whyever or how often ever she wants one. Pro-life = women should respect the lives of all people especially children and “should” never choose abortion for themselves or others unless lives are in danger. Pro-death = in some cases, depending on the criminal circumstances, it can be fair for someone to pay for their crimes by suffering their own death.

        • Zehnhund

          Pro-Choice means you believe a woman can engage a man in an act of consensual sex and then have sole rights over the result of the act. Pro-Choice is the only issue where anyone argues that one, only one and the same one has unquestionable dominion over another and the same other every time.
          The historic irony is brilliant! Before women could vote the supporters of suffrage argued that no man should have such power over a woman as to deny her the right to vote.
          Of course hypocrisy and irony and that abortion is actually not a law is lost on the vast majority of those that are Pro-Choice.

          • was*thisjustin

            “Pro-Choice means you believe a woman can engage a man in an act of consensual sex and then have sole rights over the result of the act.” – and in your warped mind it should be some other way?

            Yes, pro-choice means that no one has control over the woman’s body other than herself. Is there any equivalency for men, where the court gets to decide what a man can and cannot do with a legitimate medical condition?

          • Zehnhund

            Ah. I see. So you’d have had no issue with not being able to work or vote if married because it was the man’s prerogative! ??

          • was*thisjustin

            “So you’d have had no issue with not being able to work or vote if married because it was the man’s prerogative! ??”

            What does that mean? How is it that one would not be able to work or vote if married? I’ve been married for 20 years and worked and voted for longer.

            Please make sense.

          • Zehnhund

            Wow. Ok. History lesson. There was a time in this country when women were not allowed to work outside the home and not allowed to vote because both were believed to be the providence of men and men alone. It took till WWII for women to gain their rightful choice to work as a whole.
            What if you married and because you married your husband had the right to deny you the right to vote or work?
            The obvious point is that no one with any ounce of sense agrees to input 50% of something knowing the result is to be singularly, 100% controlled by the other party.
            And the scale of this “Woman’s Right” aspect is far more insidious than when men believed women should not have the right to work or vote. It is akin to one race believing they have the right to own another race.
            Simply put, if it takes to do you not believe

          • Zehnhund

            …Two should have a say? I have to assume you do when it comes to voting, working and having sex to begin with. (?)

          • was*thisjustin

            Homosexual marriage has only been around for 10 years. I am neither gay nor a female.

            ‘And the scale of this “Woman’s Right” aspect is far more insidious than when men believed women should not have the right to work or vote. It is akin to one race believing they have the right to own another race.’

            How so? Women are only asking for the same things that men get, nothing more.

            “Simply put, if it takes to do you not believe”

            Another non-sensical statement.

          • Zehnhund

            That you will not follow the logic hardly make it not logical.
            I spelled it out quite clearly.
            Again, there was a time when men did not allow women to work outside the home nor vote. Men took it for themselves that even thought they depended on women to fulfill basic needs, women did not deserve the rights to work or vote. Supporting a woman’s right to engage in an act that requires the consent and participation of another and then saying she and only she holds the right to determine the natural result of an act that requires two is on it’s face brilliantly illogical.
            No one is owed by anyone else that that is not necessary for life. I don’t owe you health insurance, Viagra, birth control or anything else not necessary for you to live.
            Your rights to obtain something for free first, do not exist, and second, do not trump my rights to decide whether I will pay for it for you.
            HL insurance pays for 16 of 20 types of birth control. The other 4 of the 20 types of birth control violate their beliefs and are available to anyone without HL insurance or insurance at all and hardly for a cost out of most women’s reach.
            I can’t do anything about insurance offering Viagra. I don’t believe it should be covered by insurance either.
            This HL insurance issue should be a non-issue and it would be if so many were so bent on making everyone else pay for whatever they want regardless of whether or not it’s available to them at an affordable price or not without anyone else’s help and if it weren’t for our Constitution saying I have the right to not provide you with something I disagree with that isn’t necessary for you to live.
            It’s really disturbingly simple.
            It is not necessary to sustain life.
            It is available to anyone on the open market.
            It violates my beliefs to pay for what you don’t need but simply want me to pay for for you.
            Abortion. There is NO law guaranteeing abortion or outlawing abortion.
            I laid this out so simply and you chose to avoid it.
            Men use to believe that women did not have the right to vote. Women were necessary and needed and capable of being and doing all they had to, needed to and more. Yet men decided they couldn’t have a say in what they were 50% of.
            Again, in no other situation is the consent of a second party deemed null and void after the very act that required the second party’s consent.
            Saying a woman has the sole right to decide what to do with anything that required another to obtain is the exact same thing as saying a man gets sole rights over the same.
            Then women want me to pay for them to have birth control but also tell me that I have no say over the result of an agreement between her and I to commit the act that resulted in something that required both of us to do.
            There’s ZERO logic or even common sense here.
            Is it necessary to sustain life? No.
            Can you get it without my help. Yes.
            Then get it yourself.
            Does it take the consent of two equals? Yes.
            Then both have a say in the result of the action that both were required for it to take place.
            How much more simple can it be?
            You want what you want because you want it no matter what anyone else believes or wants and anyone who isn’t willing to give you whatever you want when you want it is the problem.
            That makes sense to you?
            It should have stopped making sense at least by the time you graduated high school.

          • was*thisjustin

            I want you to spell things out for me because I don’t want any faulty assumptions.

            You miss the important points about health insurance. No one is getting anything for FREE. If you have health insurance, it is either a benefit at work, or paid for by an individual, but it is all paid for. And HL has based their decision on faulty logic. The four forms of contraception that they oppose does not, in fact, abort anything.

            “It violates my beliefs to pay for what you don’t need but simply want me to pay for for you.”

            You get to decide what I NEED?!? And I don’t care about your “beliefs”, just hard facts.

            “Saying a woman has the sole right to decide what to do with anything that required another to obtain is the exact same thing as saying a man gets sole rights over the same.”

            Not at all. We are talking about one specific issue here, despite the fact that you are trying to make it about other things. A woman should always have the right to control her own body, just like a man should.

            “Then women want me to pay for them to have birth control…”

            That is not happening. YOU aren’t paying for their birth control, THEY are, through compensation. In this case, that compensation is provided by the company they work for. Money is simply a different form of compensation.

            “…but also tell me that I have no say over the result of an agreement between her and I to commit the act that resulted in something that required both of us to do.”

            So you should have control over her body? Should she have control over yours?

            “There’s ZERO logic or even common sense here.”

            Only in your warped mind.

            “You want what you want because you want it no matter what anyone else believes or wants and anyone who isn’t willing to give you whatever you want when you want it is the problem.”

            Again, no one is asking for anything free here. And for consenting adults, not causing harm to others, you should not be able to tell them they cannot have something just because YOU don’t like it.

            That make sense to you?

      • was*thisjustin

        And you’re not “pro-life”, you are “pro-birth”. You figure they’re a parasite after that.

        • Zehnhund

          Now you know me well enough to dictate what I believe and think? I thought you just disagreed with that? Good thing we’re equals so you can have a say just like I do isn’t it? Or is it?

          • was*thisjustin

            Absolutely! It is EASY to tell what a pro-lifer is thinking, or at least trying to think. I get the feeling English is not your native language.

    • Joyce Barrett

      Thank you for such a well spoken respectful point of view. Also thank you for your service to this country so that we can have different points of view. I am conservative with respect to other points of view. I do not always agree totally with every conservative view either. Its nice to see someone with different views sound like they have some sanity. Its sad to watch America divided and destructing from within. Respectfully, girl with guns!

    • Michael L Clark

      Let’s see, I agreee women with guns are hot.

    • Tony

      Well said. We are all entitled to our opinion.

    • CrazyAuntJane

      I’m with you Douglas and it blows my mind how these idiots call pro-life Christians, “haters” when they spew the most vile hatred! Well said!

      • gracekelley

        It’s easy when you see comments filled with name calling because you can’t control your emotions in regard to a internet discussion board.

    • IvanRider

      Good to see you’re coming around. I’m totally anti-abortion / abolitionist. Only in the event of a miscarriage where the child is already dead but poses a threat, would I say surgery up and remove what’s left. I don’t feel there’s any reason to take a perfectly-healthy child that implanted to the correct spot on the womb and go Jason Vorhees on them. Even disabled children deserve a chance – even if they only have days to live outside. It’s enough time for a baptism, if nothing else.

      I’m all for executing the worst of the worst, though I would want someone else to be the judge because I don’t know if I could control my temper given some of the sociopaths that are out there. It’s a tad self-defeating if you let them turn you into Dexter.

      Your stance on social services makes sense to a degree too. And I also write some sci-fi. Haven’t been to a lot of conventions, but I can totally buy what you’re saying. I’m on DeviantArt, which has a lot of sci-fi and comic fans too. And yes, the “progressive” crowd is one of the most screeching, uncivil, intolerant forces I’ve ever encountered. And when I destroy their “real” arguments, they make stuff up. Then accuse me of “victim-blaming” when I say everyone has some culpability if a fool ignores advice and walks into an ambush, but only for the role each of them played, in no way negating the culpability of anyone else for anything else.

      Meanwhile, they claim that my “victim-blaming” makes it okay for them to harass me endlessly, thus making hypocrites of themselves. I point that out to them, and they just call names and repeat their allegations.

      The ones after me don’t call for someone else to shoot me, but they do claim that their disagreeing with me on something (and totally reading the wrong thing that I never said into it) somehow gives them the right to harass me in ways that explicitly violate site rules.

      They demand “respect” for their views, which consist solely of delusions of grandeur for themselves combined with hatred and intolerance for certain other groups they have been taught to hate. All demands of respect for their unwillingness to respect me in return.

      More conservative authors don’t pull that kind of a stunt. They’re much more willing to have a civil, rational discussion. And if there’s an impasse, there’s an “agree to disagree” policy in place. They don’t try to trample me under foot like the “progressive” retrogressives do.

    • was*thisjustin

      Speak for yourself. I too served in the Army, then went to college. I’m still as liberal AND non-PC as can be. And I’m willing to discuss any topic as long as people don’t lie or stretch the truth. I’m all for a well regulated militia, but gun-nuts forget about “well regulated”.

  • Rick Root

    I just saw the pic a few minutes ago on another page and thin it is fine, other than the gun missing which would be a real nice touch, I think she should have worked a Bible into the pic and really get the Liberals fired up.

    • bgilman45

      Rick , i guarantee that if the woman had tried to put a bible into a picture that was so obviously intended to enflame and anger and was created with malice …. God would have struck her down where she stood.
      The Bible will NOT be used to advance a political debate.

      • ShannonT

        Unfortunatly, that is just what you have done. Used the Bible to advance your side of this political debate. God would not have struck her down, just like He will not strike you down for you for having your oinion. That is not how He opporates. If you are going to use the bible to prove a point, reading it and using the scriptures as intended would probably be the better path to take.

        • bgilman45

          Shannon … check out what happened to Annanais and Sophira.
          Please dont try to match knowledge of scripture with me.
          And this is NOT a political debate.
          I have no interest in politics.
          I DO have an interest in the spreading of the Gospel and unfortunately to do that i sometimes need to engage those who would bring shame to the name of Jesus and drive people away from the kingdom.
          Jesus cares little about actions or mistakes we make.
          He cares everything about the condition of the heart.
          And hate has no place in the kingdom of heaven.

          • sickandtired

            In all honesty, your comments will drive people away from the Kingdom. Coming online, professing to be spreading the Gospel and having a “holier than thou” attitude will not break into a hardened heart or show someone who Jesus is. I suggest you take a softer, more humbing, loving approach to start with.

          • bgilman45

            But sick and tired …. everyone here is a good ole God fearing Christian, right???? Ready to stand against those commie godless liberals.
            That was my whole point posting here.
            Conservatives in general and Christians in particular, need to stop attacking liberals!!!!!!! It accomplishes ZERO.
            So yes, im holding fellow Christians and fellow conservatives accountable for their actions.
            If we take a softer more loving approach then we might … just maybe ….make headway in the direction of the culture.

  • Tom Clardy

    What the problem seems to be is that you make a hero of this girl, but all she did, as you have, is to poke people with a stick. It’s not any different than poking a wild boar with a sharp stick and then reporting how mean and wild it is. You’re delighted in causing tension and divisiveness, so don’t criticize liberals for fighting back. You’ve shown yourselves to be the same as those you dislike.

    • Mark W Miles

      “don’t criticize liberals for fighting back” Yes that is what liberals try to stomp out alright. Opinions that differ from their own.

      • Cecil Memmers

        You’re joking right? Liberals do that? Stomp out opinions that differ from their own? Funny, because that’s exactly what Hobby Lobby did. Their opinion of birth control was different from Scientists, and Doctors, but they still stomped out the option for women who work for them. Look up: Hypocritical

        Hey Hobby Lobby? Any plans to sell your stock in TEVA and DANCO? You know, the companies that make Plan B and the morning after pills?

        I guess if you can *make* money on abortions, that’s fine with you.

        • MisterE

          Hey Cecil…if they want Plan B, they can go buy it. Does your insurance cover every prescription ever made? Some things don’t get paid for by insurance….in this case, if you fell like killing a baby, Hobby Lobby wants no part of it……but if you really want to….you can march your utt over to the pharmacy and help yourself.

        • Squibbs

          Women who work for them can’t but their own birth control? That is very interesting. Tell me more about that.

          • military wife and mom

            Women have their choice of 16 birth control options (out of 20 listed). If they are too dense to be able to select one out of 16, what can we say????? In my day, we only had three so they are VERY LUCKY they have 16 choices. By the way, I notice most of the complaints are coming from males. ha

          • Kirsten Longhibler

            most men are stupid about birthcontrol

          • Steve Struemph

            Of course they can… but. “Not many of the most effective ones, which save money over time but have high up-front costs. For example, the IUD, to which Hobby Lobby objects, can cost between $500 and $1,000, including the care surrounding its insertion. The monthly cost of the hormonal pill can be low, but doesn’t make sense for all kinds of women, including those who experience side effects. Under the regulations Hobby Lobby objects to, the out-of-pocket cost for any FDA-approved contraceptive should be zero.”

          • Squibbs

            How is Hobby Lobby stomping out opinions different than their own? I don’t understand.

            None of this equates to “denial of access” which is what this ruling is being peddled as. I am pro-choice, but let’s be honest about what’s going on here.

          • binky354

            In my life, if I haven’t been able to afford the more expensive, I choose the less expensive option. That’s why I drive an economy car instead of a luxury car. I never expected anyone to subsidize my needs or choices.

          • Kirsten Longhibler

            there are lawsuits with the iud, some women died

          • Besta

            Women who work and earn health care coverage as a benefit should be able to expect coverage of basic health care needs/preventive care from the policy they earn (which includes access to medically appropriate contraceptives, not contraceptives chosen for them by a craft store)

        • sickandtired

          1. out of 20 drugs, 4 are not through the insurance that they provide to their higher-than-minimum-wage employees, who, btw, are not at all upset over this. 2. the 4 drugs are considered abortificants – they kill or do not allow a fertilized egg to grow. 3. all other CONTRACEPTIVES are covered…free to the employees. 4. it does not remove the ability to get the other 4 drugs – they still have the option to use them, but the insurance policy will not cover them. However, they can get them, for free, from various sources, including PP. 5. they don’t hold ‘stock’ in those companies, but their 401K which is managed by an outside company, as required by law, invests for the employees. The company, by law, is not allowed to have any control over those investments.

          • WendDye

            Awesome reply!!! Thumbs up to someone with great intelligence!!!

          • binky354

            I’m amazed that the left, including Hillary Clinton, lies about Hobby Lobby – They want people to believe that Hobby Lobby provides NO insurance coverage for birth control..what a lie. 16 options for birth control are provided. Something wrong if a woman (or man) can’t find one of those to use for birth control.

          • Gail Hedlund

            Well, unfortunately that is how liberals work in most cases…half-truths! Instead of pointing out the Hobby Lobby PROVIDES 16 forms of birth control on their insurance, they like to &itch about the FOUR they do not! I’d be THRILLED if I had coverage that offered that many options! What if Hobby Lobby only offered 4? Would there be as big of an uproar?
            The liberal media & politicians crying that they are only getting 80% of a cake! Ridiculous!!!

        • Ihaveagoodpointthere

          If a woman’s chosen form of birth control was to keep her clothes on, would Hobby Lobby have to buy her clothes?

          • Shawn Singer

            yes

          • Besta

            You do realize the vast majority of women using contraceptives are married, right?! But by all means, go on slut shaming….

          • Ihaveagoodpointthere

            You do realize the vast majority of married women use one of the 16 forms of birth control that the company is OK with, right? Married women don’t generally use the morning after abortion pill.

          • Besta

            No, but married women do use IUDs (which Dr.s do not consider to be abortifacients even if HL does). I don’t object to limitations on coverage due to facts, evidence, efficacy or expert recommendations, but I do object to limitations on coverage based on ‘beliefs’ of business owners (and the SCOTUS acknowledged the fact that the methods not covered don’t actually work the way HL believes they do was not being considered, what was being considered was what HL ‘believes’ to be true).
            I also object to the simple minded response that women who don’t want to get pregnant should just keep their clothes on and their legs closed. Let’s be real – most women who don’t want to get pregnant are in stable, loving, committed relationships/married, and sex in that context is healthy (physiologically, emotionally and for the couple/family). What a sad and unhappy life people must live if they really believe the only reason to have sex is to produce a child. IMHO.

          • Besta

            perhaps… but married women do use IUDs (which Dr.s do not consider abortifacients even if HL does). I don’t object to limitations on coverage based on evidence, efficacy, expert recommendation, etc, but I do object to limitations on coverage based on ‘beliefs’ of business owners (and the SCOTUS acknowledged the fact that the excluded methods did not work the way HL believed them to was not being considered, what was being considered was what HL ‘believes’ to be true).
            I also object to the simple minded response that women who wish to avoid pregnancy should just ‘keep their clothes on and their legs closed’, as though sex isn’t a natural, normal and healthy human activity. Most women wishing to avoid pregnancy are in loving, healthy, committed relationships/married, and in that context regular intercourse is heathy (physiologically, psychologically and for the couple/family), while bearing multiple pregnancies generally is not (physically, emotionally or financially). Let’s just keep the shaming out of it, this is a woman’s health issue. What sad and unhappy lives those people must lead who really believe the only reason to have sex is to produce a child, IMHO.

        • Mark W Miles

          What did they stomp out? All they did was win the right not to have to pay for it. Period. Buy your own birth control, mooch.

          • Cecil Memmers

            YOU pay for YOUR own (fill in the blank), asshole….

            Look… we’re not taking your heart medication away from you. No one’s saying you can’t go out and buy heart medication. We’re just not going to cover it with your insurance. It imposes on my religious freedom.

            Look… we’re not taking your diabetes medication away from you. No one’s saying you can’t go out and buy diabetes medication. We’re just not going to cover it with your insurance. It imposes on my religious freedom.

            Look… we’re not taking your blood pressure medication away from you. No one’s saying you can’t go out and buy blood pressure medication. We’re just not going to cover it with your insurance. It imposes on my religious freedom.

            Look… we’re not taking your anxiety/depression medication away from you. No one’s saying you can’t go out and buy anxiety/depression medication. We’re just not going to cover it with your insurance. It imposes on my religious freedom.

          • Cecil Memmers

            Sorry you hate womem and one won’t touch you.

    • Michael Rice

      No one made a hero out of her until the left acted like she was Satan. She exercised her rights and stated an opinion and the left freaked out.

      No one poked anyone. I find it amazing that the “if you don’t like it, don’t watch, read, look at it” crowd gets infuriated by this.

      Causing tension? It’s not liek she is occupying some place and participating in rape tents. I guess she could post a video of an abortion happening..I guess she could lie about the facts in teh Hobby Lobby case. Wait, the left has already done that.

      The right is sick and tired of being treated like this for doing nothing. The right is sick and tired of posting pics of big game hunts, where the meat is given to African Villagers, then told by former porn stars they have no morals.

      The fact is this, the left has been poking the right with big sticks for years and the right finally got sick of it. now you are all crying like a little girl.

      She was a shirt and went to a store. She then posted a pic, but yeah…that is just so to blame for the reactions from you leftist brethren. SPoken like a true hypocritical, self entitled lefty..

      • bgilman45

        Atta boy Michael. Just like the Pharisee Jesus preached about. “Thank you Lord that I’m not like that sinner over there.”
        Or in the modern language … “Well we’re not as bad as them!”
        The ;left’s behavior is no excuse for people who claim to be Christians to act like jerks. Because the standard is NOT comparison to the Left. The standard is comparison to Jesus.
        Our job is to be a standard bearer for the faith and to be a good witness to draw non-believers closer to Jesus and into the Kingdom of God.
        This photo does neither.

        • MisterE

          hey…why don’t you come back to the real world.

          • bgilman45

            There is NOTHING more real than the Word of God and the Kingdom of God.

          • Timmy Halsema

            sure there is…. reality

          • bgilman45

            Eternity is a loooooooong time to be wrong.
            But thanks for proving my point.

      • Hannah Elder

        To add to this: she also didn’t put the caption above her. She never meant for it to go viral nor for someone to add an inflaming headline about liberals. People need to CHILL out. It’s hilarious and she’s standing for truth.

      • Andrea

        Wow this is so well said…liberals have been poking the right with sticks for years…you can’t turn on late night television or watch prime time tv or see most comedians without hearing someone ridiculing the “intolerants” of our country…the double standard is sickening and we’ve finally said enough is enough…I’m tired of being told I’m intolerant for having morals and standing by them while their relativistic morals blow them whichever way the media happens to be turning at that moment…

      • MrDrT

        The bizarre non-arguments of the lib-progs is explainable. Starts at 1:00 of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

        • http://libertynews.com/ Eric Odom

          MrDrT that is easily the best 45 minute video I’ve seen this year. Nail. On. Head.

    • texlovera

      So liberals are “mean and wild” like wild boars? They have no control over themselves? They are savage animals?

      Tell me something I don’t know….

      • Cecil Memmers

        As long as your side doesn’t do any name calling…. you know, like this article criticized Liberals for doing.

        Look up: Hypocritical

        • Timmy Halsema

          look up: doushebag

      • Steve Struemph

        It’s come down to that, eh? Not everyone is like that. The case can be made very easily that there are people like that who are liberal leaning politically just as the case can be made for those who are conservative leaning. But I think as a country we are in trouble if we can’t move past this type of discussion “The liberals are just idiots! No the conservatives are idiots!”. What I’d like to see is more focus on specific issues. You state your view, I state my view. We maybe do some research and learn some things. It’s the learning part that makes the country stronger. If we learning each other’s perspectives, respect each other’s beliefs, and stay open to learning and respecting science and what is better for our nation as a whole (the greater good) then we will get somewhere.

        • texlovera

          “wild and mean” and “wild boars” weren’t my words!
          And tolerating stupidity is not tolerance…

        • Squibbs

          Perhaps you should re-read the original post that was being responded to.

          • Steve Struemph

            Why?

    • bgilman45

      Amen Tom … spot on.

      • Squibbs

        Only a sick animal equates differing opinions with physical assault. You have something wrong with you.

        • bgilman45

          Squibbs … this had nothing to do with physical assault… the expression “poking the bear” has to do with intentionally making another angry.

    • MisterE

      Ya….did you see some og the twitter responses…..real bunch of classy individuals…..

    • RJohnston

      You mean like a gay pride parade of one? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

    • Squibbs

      So now someone sharing and opinion you don’t agree with is “poking a bear with a stick?” That is insane. Just admit that you cannot handle hearing differing opinions without lashing out like a child. The party of tolerance can tolerate different opinions like Henry Ford could paint your model t any colour you want.

    • Cynthia Lancaster Moore

      That’s where everyone seems to be missing the point. This girl did not take that picture to “poke a sharp stick at liberals” She merely took a picture of herself showing what she believes in. I don’t understand how it is when someone with differing opinions are wrong or ignorant or causing divisiveness. She has just as much right to share her beliefs as anyone else. Read the article – she didn’t put the caption on the picture, someone else did.

    • melmc13

      Technically speaking, she just had the picture taken. Someone else, without her permission by the way, added the caption. Therefore, she didn’t really poke anyone with a comment and people can make whatever assumptions they wish about pictures (and they will, as has been seen).

  • Richard Kindel

    “Bonus thought… can you imagine how the left would respond if Holly’s Hobby Lobby photo included this bad boy slung over her shoulder?”

    ….. Better yet, same image but with the girl wearing an islamic Burqa instead of holding a rifle …. naaa, on second thought, the left would probably be OK with that since it’s “politically correct,” but with a bible (instead of burqa), hell no, the left would run that out faster than one could say “freedom of expression.”

    • MisterE

      Right because it’s “in” to be accepting of a cult that has sworn to wipe you off the face of the planet.

  • ChelieinTX

    Holly and I follow each other, and she is an awesome lady. And she did NOT need to brush her hair or put on makeup – she’s beautiful!

  • bgilman45

    1. I am a Bible Believing born again Christian. I voted for Huckabee in 2008 and Ron Paul in 2012.
    2. Eric Odom you are an embarassment to me and every other actual Christian. You lambaste the left for not being tolerant …. and you are correct. Many are not.
    How tolerant are you?
    Toward gays?
    Toward unwed moms?
    Toward people on welfare?
    Toward immigrants, documented or undocumented?
    Toward people like me that are pro-life on ALL issues, including abortion, the death penalty and war?
    You want to know why the left has such venom for the tea party and the extremists of the right wing? We brought in on ourselves through the hatred and venom we spread against people who we deemed were not as “pure” “virtuous” “Holy” “motivated” “American” “Traditional” as we are.
    In other words … We acted JUST LIKE THE PHARISEES AND NOT AT ALL LIKE JESUS.
    So here is a thought …. instead of running photos like this one and antagonizing “the enemy” and making the situation even worse …. Let’s try acting like Jesus. Let’s try acting like the Christians are all claim to be.
    Because understand this and understand it clearly …. many ofd you who CLAIM to be Christians but act like pharisees and legalists will be burning in hell because clearly you have NOT been born again and become a new creation.
    Christianity is NOT a political party. And it is NOT a religion. It is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ that, every day, makes us more and more like Him.
    And that means loving and caring for our friends AND our enemies. And praying for those who persecute and hate us.
    You want to fight fire with fire ?????? Then your eternity is going to full of flames.

    • Gary Mathis

      Just because you want your head knocked off doesn’t mean the rest of us do. BTW, remember how Jesus kicked the shit out of the Pharisees in the Temple? Go read your Bible and shut up.

      • bgilman45

        Actually, Jesus turned over tables … he did not assault anyone … he did drive out the money changers (bankers?).
        But it’s good to know where you stand … a godless rightwinger. Wow.
        But hey, keep accusing the left of not being tolerant. You have so much credibility.

        • sickandtired

          um, I think you just proved yourself part of who you are blasting – “godless rightwinger” sounds like you’re rant against those you are blaming and generalizing against. Christianity requires judgements be made. Condemantion is left to God Almighty.

          • bgilman45

            And that is why i issued the warning I issued ….. Eternity is a long time to be wrong.

    • http://libertynews.com/ Eric Odom

      I’m looking forward to your proof that I don’t personally tolerate gays, unwed moms, welfare recipients and people who commit crimes by crossing our borders illegally. And no, you can’t point to any story I write that FACTUALLY discusses NEWS surrounding related issues as proof that I don’t tolerate someone. That’s a might strong and false accusation you just tossed out there. And you need to back it up with proof or find your way out of the comments section.

      • Steve

        I’ve been following this website for a few months now, and frankly, I have to agree with the basic point bgilman45 is saying. A lot of what I see on this site seems to be geared towards making us conservatives outraged at what the left is doing. I don’t see how this is any different than what the main stream media does with liberals.

        And then you go an edit a picture with words that you know will infuriate the opposition, and for what? What does that accomplish? What good can come from that?

        If we’re ever going to make this country a better place, these childish ‘lets-see-how-much-we-can-piss-off-the-other-side’ games have to stop. I understand liberals aren’t exactly easy to get along with, but how ’bout we suck it up and be the better men.

      • bgilman45

        Eric … if you are going to write a bigoted, slanted column, don’t wimp out … own it.
        and what I said was Right wing Christians in general have brought it on themselves.
        Now if you are a right wing Christian, i guess i would include you.
        And there is plenty of evidence of right wing nominal Christians exhibiting abhorrant behavior toward the people i mentioned.
        Now, if you are a real Christian, you would recognize the hatred and venom that has been exhibited and you would understand why liberals feel the way they do …. Gays, muslims, other non Christians, those on welfare, etc, have been attacked and attacked and attacked.
        Seriously? Are you going to try and deny that is the case?
        Just look at the language in your own column.
        Not loving, grace-filled, merciful.
        It was hateful and spiteful.
        I stand by my comments. And i stand firm in my convictions and faith.
        Do you?

        • http://libertynews.com/ Eric Odom

          I’m still waiting on your proof. I won’t hold my breath.

    • MisterE

      Excuse me…your halo is a little crooked………

    • RJohnston

      You know that verse about judging the left always touts…it’s directed to Christians and how we relate to other Christians. Remove the moat from your own eye.

      • bgilman45

        Actually that is two different verses you are referencing.
        and actually what Paul said was that we are not to judge the world because the Gospel sounds like foolishness to non believers.
        But you are right that we are to hold each other accountable.
        And I’m certainly as much a sinner as anyone else and when my witness sucks, i expect others to hold me accountable.
        We were NOT told to bring wealth or democracy to the whole world. We were told to spread the Gospel.
        There is no room for bigotry or hatred. If you have those things in your heart for any of the children of God …..and that is everyone …. then you have a real problem and i would question your salvation.
        Love your neighbor …. who is my neighbor …. well your neighbor is your worst enemy.
        Jesus didnt stutter.

  • Nate O

    Liberal or Conservative, you go looking for trouble, surprise surprise, you get trouble

    • Squibbs

      Only in an Orwellian left wing fantasy land is voicing your opinion “looking for trouble.”

  • t. carlson

    You look great Holly You do not need Make-up

  • evil nick

    she got what she wanted, no doubt about it. lets be serious people have no beliefs anymore its all about who can get the most retweets. we suck

    • http://libertynews.com/ Eric Odom

      For the record Holly didn’t add the text to the image. Don’t blame her or make her a villain for simply sharing her views online.

      • https://www.youtube.com/user/sixbeersin evil nick

        who made her a villain?
        Did I say she was an awful person who deserved to die?
        Did I blame her for anything?
        Im sorry, are you being serious or just “white knighting”?

        • http://libertynews.com/ Eric Odom

          You accused her of having no beliefs, when in fact that’s exactly what she has and that’s what the whole thing is about. Her beliefs and people being upset that she shares them.

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/sixbeersin evil nick

            WHAT? I said people have no beliefs. How about instead of generalizing my statement you “read” it…. I could give a rats ass personally what she believes in. As a country whole we have no beliefs, we just jump from hot topic to the next.
            I was speaking of the USA in general. or again you are “white knighting” and trying to get in her pants, in that case keep going and good luck!

          • http://libertynews.com/ Eric Odom

            You said that in response to a story about Holly. Come on now.

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/sixbeersin evil nick

            So if I read an article about ardvarks and said I hate badgers am I calling aardvarks badgers.
            Maybe my comment was directed at both her AND her haters…. Hence “WE suck” at the end.
            I’m neither conservative nor liberal as both sides to me love to think their own intolerance is fine yet the others is not.
            Seriously, your article… My comment but you’re wrong here. Just say “OK I get it” or even “your phrasing could have been better” but really “WEEEEEE SUCK” should have explained it all. Look up 6 beers in on Google plus or YouTube. You’ll see I could really care less about holly in particular.
            We as a nation really need to wake up before we fall asleep.

      • Steve Struemph

        Does it bother you that you posted someone’s picture without their permission? It’s my view that that is rude. She’s being harassed now and sure, she’s ok with it but what if she wasn’t?

      • Avanii

        I agree with Steve Struemph. You took a person’s picture, added words to intentionally start trouble and then you posted it, on purpose, for millions to see. Most, if not all, of her hateful messages, rude comments and threats are because you decided to post her picture on a page that, as you said, “…is about 2,000,000 fans strong.” Also, like Steve said, she is okay with it. However, I feel that you should apologize to her because, over some time, she may not be okay with it anymore. You could get sued for copyright infringement and invasion of privacy because, according to copyright laws, it’s illegal to use any photo, drawing,
        icon, whatever off of the internet if you didn’t make it ‘ENTIRELY’
        yourself.

  • http://ScoDal.com Scott Dallas

    Suddenly very hungry for Chick fil-A

  • Thomas Pratt

    I think this should start a new trend! people need to post a “FREEDOM TRIPLE PLAY” Pic!!!!

    1) shirt or sign that promotes Pro Life
    2) in front of a Hobby Lobby
    3 enjoying Chick-Fil-A

    FLOOD ALL SOCIAL MEDIA WITH THEM!!!!!!!!!

    • Thomas Pratt

      perhaps the FREEDOM FOUR PIC

      we can add a gun!

  • Susan Hunt Gilkey

    I absolutely am appalled whenever someone responds to those they disagree with by calling names, making death threats, sewing venom. There is absolutely no excuse for this. As a liberal I believe there is a need for opposing points f view and regardless of whether or not I agree with someone, I always assume that there is sincerity and reasons for their beliefs. We don’t all have the same experiences or backgrounds which contribute to our beliefs But for those who call themselves conservatives to label everyone on the left as intolerant is ignoring the facts. Our president has been labeled a Nazi, a tyrant, a socialist and a communist for his beliefs which are really less liberal than most democrats. For a group of Americans to greet a busload of children fleeing for their lives from violent countries is absolutely wrong as well. We don’t have to agree with one another, that would not only not be productive but it would be boring as well. And by the way, if Hobby Lobby is so pro-life, why do they have factories in China which has forced abortions and why do they invest their pension funds in the same drug companies that produce the contraceptives they belief cause abortions?

    • The Bear

      Ahhhhhhh shove it up your ass. We’re sick of you liberals…just sick and tired.

      • ohnoesssss

        Spoken like a true ignorant sumbitch. It’s okay that they invest in the same drug companies making your “abortion” pills? Just like the bible, you pick and choose for your own greedy agenda.

      • Susan Hunt Gilkey

        Well, if you had brains you would be dangerous. An article calling out liberals for being intolerant seems to draw out the intolerant conservatives. You must be a Fox News watcher where the facts don’t matter. Just make them up as you go along. If freedom of speech makes you uncomfortable you might feel at home in Russia with a government that doesn’t seem to like liberals. And if you are sick and tired, I’m sure that the Affordable Act will cover that. Preexisting conditions are now covered, even for the mentally disturbed.

  • dba_vagabond_trader

    Hint to loudmouth librals, don’t even try it. This girl will own your tighty whitey azz.

  • The Owl Guy

    HAHAHAHA All liberals are whiny idiots.

  • Kelly Young

    The way I see it is, If your going to to post something like this and think someone wont disagree then you are in for a rude awakening. I’m not just talking about her but anyone who is posting about their beliefs.
    Its always going to be a finger pointing game and someone is always going to have something to say. But if that person is willing to do something so radical and of their own free will then they can defend themselves the same way they expressed themselves.
    Why should anyone go to the rescue. That’s like jumping in a shark tank teasing them with bloody meat and then screaming for help cause the sharks are trying to eat you!

  • samthor

    why stop there? why not break out the white hood and swastikas?

  • ddo2013

    the decision the Supreme Court made this week is a good one; however, even as a Christian, it is not appropriate me to support Hobby Lobby. Unknown to most Bible-believing Christians, the owners of Hobby Lobby, the Greens, are known supporters of the pro-Palestinian propaganda agenda and are opposed to Christian Zionism and stand in opposition of Israel. Not a stance any true Christian should be taking.

  • http://www.facebook.com/logicandreason Terje Treff

    It seems to me that it`s the same on both sides. The threats, vicious verbal attacks, and name calling are just as commonplace among christians commenting on “atheist” or “pro-choice” issues. Besides, the stated purpose of the picture is to have “liberal`s head explode” – that is specifically meant to be offensive. How on earth the reactions are a surprise is beyond me, LOL. You guys are just as bad, so chill out.

  • jenny

    Why is it the left JUST CAN’T BE RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE? They want to be irresponsible & “LOOSE”, sleeping with anything with a dick swinging, and not use birth control that THEY CAN BUY AT ANY WALMART FOR $9.00 A MONTH or GET FOR FREE AT THE NEAREST HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR PLANNED PARENTHOOD! Then after they insist on being irresponsible, they get pregnant and want to KILL the the results of their being irresponsibe so their friends and family do not see their mistake and they scream and demand that SOMEONE ELSE PAY FOR GETTING KILLING THAT MISTAKE!
    GROW THE HELL UP AND TRY BEING RESPONSIBLE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY! NO ONE OWES YOU A DARN THING! YOUR BODY, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY!

    • ohnoesssss

      I like how the funding for Planned Parenthood has been attacked by conservatives for, basically, ever now that all of a sudden they recommend going to a PP. How does that make sense? Fight to get them defunded and then tell women they can go there when their health insurance won’t cover it. Things that make you go hmmm.

    • Besta

      99% of women use birth control at some point in their life, and about 70% of them are married (so I’m guessing those numbers include both ‘liberal’ and ‘conservative’ women). Just because a woman uses birth control doesn’t mean she’s ‘loose’. But i guess if I’m offended by your general characterization of (liberal) women clearly I’m the one being intolerant. And asking that health care coverage (that we pay for and/or earn) include coverage for a basic health care need most if not all women need at some point in their lives is not being ‘irresponsible’ or asking for ‘free stuff’ any more than expecting your insurance to cover your blood pressure or cholesterol meds is asking for ‘free stuff’.

  • Squibbs

    The people who claim that Conservatives want to control your body would like nothing more than to control your thoughts.

  • Kirsten Longhibler

    i do not know what to think of these elite liberals,maybe they have been brainwashed by somebody like a communist,they seem to get high when they can attack someone,solution would be to send them to a war front like in the middle east, they call themselves liberal however you must agree with them or they go ballistic, they have tempertantrums much like 2 year olds ,i had to deal with that a lot as a mom, the language used reminds one of a person that was raised in a barn without indoor plumbing for sure, hopefully they will grow up someday ,other things like when they finally grow up when they hit their 50to 62 who will work and pay for their retirement, after all they want all babies to die

  • dilsin

    #DemocraticWarOnWomen

  • ohnoesssss

    As an atheist “liberal” my head did not explode. Nor was I angered by this in any way. Your memes, just like your prayers, are futile. Have a great day! :D

    • raw hide

      so you are a good little atheist “liberal” then… all hail obama!

  • http://drunkcynic.blogspot.com/ drunkcynic

    Wow, this looks an awful lot like a war on women.

  • Gail Hedlund

    Personally, I LOVE IT!!! Why? Because I am a woman who makes my OWN CHOICES & I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE CHOICES I MAKE! I am SICK & TIRED of those who are more liberal in their thinking being the only ones to have a voice or make a stand! For far too long those who are more conservative have been muzzled by those who are more liberal. EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH! It is NOT just for the liberals.
    I’m pro-life. I pro-2nd Amendment. I believe in the death penalty, because some people are just unable to be rehabilitated (sociopath/psychopath).
    I will NEVER tell ANYONE that they DO NOT have the right to speak about what they believe. Not that I’ll agree with you, but far too often those of us who BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION get slammed. Well, let me tell you, if it weren’t for that beautifully written piece of history we wouldn’t EVEN be discussing this!!!
    Also those of us who are pro-life DO NOT believe that a woman’s place is in the home, barefoot & pregnant!!! We believe that women should use the intelligence God/powers that be/nature gave them! It has NEVER been about “controlling women”, it’s been about not using abortion as “birth control”, because there is 20 FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL on the market & only FOUR are basically “abortion pills”, thus does NOT prevent pregnancy but ENDS IT!!!
    This is the thing that KILLS me about the Hobby Lobby uproar! They are NOT denying their employees birth control! They just don’t want to pay for the FOUR!!! YES!!! FOUR!!! FOUR THAT ARE ABORTION PILLS! BTW I’m sure if any of their employees REALLY, REALLY want it they could get it for low or no cost through some clinic! SMH

  • chivette lover

    I didn’t see one threat. I saw rude dumb responses, but I didn’t see a single threat.

  • hithere

    There’s jackasses no matter where you go or what side your on. Can’t judge a whole group based on the actions of a few. If we did America would only have hippies who get offended at everything and illiterate, inbred, violent rednecks

    • Zachary Davis

      As someone who is studying ministry and history for college and wrote a family tree going back six generations for my family when I was 17 I can completely say I am not illiterate, inbred, violent, or a redneck. Saying that I can understand where you’re coming from, I see it a lot, I remember this one time someone said to me that “since I am a Conservative Christian I hate all gay and bi people and want to kill them all”, among other things he said to me. I responded: “I am a Christian and I am straight yes but my fiance is a bi Christian. Should I want to kill her?” It is similar to how people blame 9/11 on all Muslims in a way. My typical response is: “only a few Muslims flew the planes, not the whole religion.”

  • AnonymousMouse

    Most of the Left-backlash would’ve been avoided had her picture not been edited to purposely target an extremely Liberal audience response. Mr. Odom, with all due respect, you took her picture- her private property- and manipulated it for your own interests without asking for her permission to do so. I’m just glad she’s okay and none of the worst threats were truly intended to be acted upon.

    As an aside, the majority of the left backlash is most likely from individuals who are extremely Liberal. Again, let’s not generalize a whole population of people, extreme Liberals don’t define The Democratic Party. I’m not going to say Conservatives are racists just because I’ve been on forums with self-described staunch Republicans proudly spewing racial slurs. We’re not all cookie-cut into Left or Right. I don’t like my food extremely salty nor extremely bland, do you? The majority of Americans are truly Moderate.

    The more America divides itself into extreme political sides because the media proliferates each party’s respective political propaganda, the less this country will get done on the governmental front. “United we Stand. Divided we Fall,” remember?
    Happy Independence Day to all.

    • Avanii

      Exactly. I say that the Author should apologize for taking her picture and intentionally putting words on it to start trouble.

  • Gary J Hill

    I completely laughed at the one response that called her “brainwashed”. Don’t they even know why they think the way they do?

  • Chris Holmes Witham

    I would like to point out that ” foaming at the mouth, hateful, ignorant , intolerant internet commentators ” are actually a distinct group, merely donning the protective camouflage of ” liberal” or ” conservative”. The comments you featured there seem to be of the “rabid minsogynst” subset of the aforementioned group. I used to consider myself a conservative , a Randian, actually. Times change, people change, my views have changed as well. In my experience, insulting and threatening people does very little towards inclining them to listen and appreciate a different view point. It certainly never convinced me to change my mind about anything! One Ayn Rand quote I still believe is ” the needs of RATIONAL people do not conflict” . I think if we could all stop screaming at each other and take turns listening, we probably are not as far apart on most issues as we currently appear to be.

  • Avanii

    Am I the only one who thinks that the Author of this article should not have taken someone’s picture, added disrespectful words (that the person knew would make people mad), posted it on their page and ultimately is responsible for most (if not all) of the girls messages and hateful comments? Of course, I am not a Liberal. However, words were said that were intentionally meant to start hate, rude comments and threats to kill her. I do not appreciate that and I do not think it is funny. That’s why people are so divided. We have people who intentionally start trouble and cause hate and disrespect.

  • Justin Swain

    “Intolerant Liberals” Yes grouping millions of people into one category and saying everyone of them is intolerant. That is definitely being a tolerant conservative, or whatever you want to call yourself.
    Nevermind the issue of Pro Life or Pro Choice, how can anyone respect your opinions when you immediately say that all Liberals are intolerant?

    • El Camino

      Ahhh…..the Bob Beckel argument.

  • Sheila Binkley

    Why is it when a baby that is born gets killed its murder but an unborn baby can be killed legally and thats not murder? Makes no sense but thats what is happening. This world has no sense.

    • Kathleen

      And born babies can be murdered by abortionists and that’s called an abortion, not murder.

  • Rick Clines

    Resort to name calling and shaming? Less evolved human beings. I feel sorry for them.

  • Lina

    wait i dont get it though. what does hobby lobby, chick-fil-a, and pro life have anything to do with anything? can someone enlighten me?

    • omega2

      FREEDOM LINA, FREEDOM OF THOUGHT AND DEED FOR ANY ONE WITH THE GUTS TO STAND UP AND GRAB IT REGUARDLESS OF WHAT OTHER FOOLS THINK!

  • crazyfreddie

    YOU SEE A BEAUTIFUL ALL AMERICAN GIRL > ( DRESSED ) AND SHE IS PUT DOWN / THEN YOU SEE A MOSTLY NAKED DRUGGIE FLUFF SICKO FROM LA LA HOLLYWOOD LAND AND SHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE WONDERFUL .>> SICK AMERICANS

    • Kathleen

      Correction…. sick liberals

  • AZWarrior

    Do you leftard assholes see what she’s packing? Threaten her with your dick and she’ll blow it off- and NOT with her mouth, assclowns!

  • Lula Belle McGilicuddy

    I am a liberal and atheist and I can assure my head did not explode. It is just a person standing in a parking lot. It is of no consequence at all. I cannot imagine wasting energy on manufactured outrage.

    • Zachary Davis

      Oh the head exploding wasn’t part of the original picture. That was added on by another guy (as said in this article).

  • 4bills4

    Goo d going girl there should be thousands more like you.

  • Just me

    Sad reality that the “tolerant” left is only tolerant when one agrees with them.

  • extremistfred

    God bless her! I thought I heard fire crackers, turned out it was liberal heads exploding that someone disagreed with them, “Doesn’t she understand all conservatives have a war on women”

  • Maurice Raymond

    Hee hee…Madness, plan and simple…LET THE GAMES BEGIN !!!

  • molly

    I am ashamed she calls herself a Christian. I read her twitter and was disgusted by her comments. She is making her self look bad. She can express her views and opinions but she is really no better than the others out there name calling her.

  • Marge

    Yesterday I went on MSNBC’s facebook page. The only show I watch anymore is Morning Joe because only Joe and Mika make sense. I am really angry that some people on MSNBC that go to work in suits and ties are calling protesters and the residents of Murietta, CA “racists.” Protesters who showed up to block the buses are from all backgrounds. They were probably desperate to do something. Ordinary citizens have to show their displeasure somehow. I thought protesting was the American way…only if they are liberal, right?! They had to take to the streets because Governors of border states can’t get the President to listen to them! They can’t get him to enforce the law! So what law do we get to break?! What does my citizenship mean?! If we are going to give everyone citizenship that barges in then it loses meaning. The liberals want to make this a humanitarian crisis. Well let them take the kids home and feed them. There are black kids in Mississippi and white kids in Appalachia that need $5,000 to $7,000 to move somewhere and have a better future. Funny how parents in Central America can come up with that much money. No one in my neighborhood has that kind of dough!!! And they are supposed to be running from gangs. There are gangs everywhere in the United States. The good people of Wilmington, NC would like gangs to go away too. Someone always has to bring up the Irish immigration to the U.S. Well, we didn’t enter illegally. We came through Ellis Island. We were actually starving to death. Thousands starved to death during the Potato Famine. When we got here there were signs that said “Help Wanted : Irish Need Not Apply” None of those kids from Central America have green mouths from eating grass to try to stay alive. America won’t let them starve. Some liberals said if they were Canadian children, they would be welcomed. If they were Canadian children, we’d be arresting their parents for child abuse and neglect! None of this happened until Obama’s Dream Act speech that brought about the American children’s nightmare of a future ruined by lawlessness. He won’t even make a phone call to get a Marine out of a Mexican jail! Liberals are laughing about how the Republicans are going to recycle Mitt Romney. Well this is one conservative Democrat who is going to vote for him. Hillary Clinton berated Vince Foster before he killed himself. Then we hear her laugh because she got a sex offender a light sentence who raped a 12 year old girl. So who has a war on women? That would be the Democrats who have a war on women and children plus the liberals keep all the stories about Sharia Law in the USA covered up. Obama wants millions of dollars to give the Syrian Rebels who are the same people who kill Christians. No! I feel like we have been totally betrayed by the Obama administration. They freed 5 of the world’s most dangerous terrorists for one deserter. Yes, Mrs. Clinton had a head injury and that is why she thinks she is poor. They couldn’t mess this country up any more than if they had done it on purpose. Hobby Lobby offered 16 forms of birth control and the liberals lied and said they didn’t offer any because it didn’t include the morning after-pill. I’m glad to see a young mother of three who has some common sense and some courage. We have to take this country back!

  • Keith S

    What is she standing up for? I didn’t know anyone was forcing her to be gay or take birth control but she seems to be fine with pushing her own beliefs on others. Sounds like she’s the bully. I think it’s funny she’s standing in front of Hobby Lobby I keep seeing this thing going around the internet talking about how Hobby Lobby has investments in a company that makes an abortion pill.

    • DoseOfReality

      This has less to do with Hobby Lobby and much more to do with keeping government the f out of our lives.

      • Keith S

        She is standing in front of Hobby Lobby because of their views. So yes it does have to do with Hobby Lobby.

        • DoseOfReality

          She is standing in front of Hobby Lobby because she’s personally upset that the Supreme Court kicked part of the government out of Hobby Lobby’s business. The government has no business telling businesses what healthcare they must provide to employees. The end.

          • Keith S

            You really don’t seem to have any idea what you are talking about. Why would she be upset that Hobby Lobby doesn’t have to supply birth control for its workers when she is wearing a pro life shirt. If the government has no business telling them what to do then they also have no business telling others what to do.

          • Zachary Davis

            “Doesn’t have to supply birth control”? Just so you know there are like 20 different types of birth control. Hobby Lobby already supplied SIXTEEN of them before it was mandatory. They were only against FOUR of them. I would say they are supplying it to their workers wouldn’t you?

          • Keith S

            Would you like me to rephrase it for you. They don’t have to supply more than 1/5 of the available types of birth control. Does that make you feel better.

    • Kathleen

      She’s not pushing anything on anyone, she’s standing in front of a building, holding a drink in a t-shirt. The left and Obamacare tried shoving something on people who basically, morally disagree with it…and that’s murder of the unborn. Plain and simple, nothing more and nothing less.

      • Keith S

        The birth control pill doesn’t kill anything it prevents ovulation. They are pushing their beliefs on others by not providing birth control to employees that want it. Let me say it another way so you will understand. By preventing their employees from getting birth control through their insurance because of their beliefs they are forcing their beliefs on their employees. Their employees taking birth control will in no way effect them.

        • Kathleen

          You are truly uninformed and should go do your research. Hobby Lobby provides certain types of birth control, they were fighting against specific products that terminate a pregnancy. Wow…. another uninformed voter.

          • Keith S

            I wasn’t only talking about Hobby Lobby. I was also only making one example. I can give you another if you like. Chick-Fil-A donated to groups that fought gay marriage. That would be the company’s logo on the drink she is holding. Believing that marriage can only be between a man and a woman and preventing gays from getting married means they’re forcing their beliefs on someone. Please tell me how gay marriage effects them. I’ll wait.

          • Kathleen

            You just don’t get it do you? Neither Hobby Lobby nor Chick-fil-a are forcing anything on anyone. All of you on the left think that just because someone has a different opinion or view on something, you think they’re wrong and go into full blown “my way or the highway”.

          • Keith S

            You’re the one that doesn’t get it. By preventing someone from carrying out there normal life because of your beliefs you are in fact pushing your beliefs on them. I’m not left as far as my political beliefs they really don’t seem to fit into any group. So once again you are wrong. I honestly don’t have a problem with others views as long as It doesn’t effect my life. I’m all about freedom and allowing people to make their own choices as long as it doesn’t effect someone else negatively.

          • Kathleen

            Okay, so you tell me then since you think how people think obstructs how someone can carry out their normal life. How does Hobby Lobby not wanting to cover drugs that abort a fetus stop someone from living a normal life? How does the decision of Chick-fil-a supporting traditional marriage and making contributions to groups with the same values, infringe on anyone’s rights? If you’re all gang busters for freedom, then you must understand that everyone is free to leave a job if they can’t get drugs to kill their baby, or if the pay is low or the hours don’t work out, etc., and they’re also free to eat at any restaurant they want. You’re the one who is shoving your beliefs on people. That is all the left does.

          • Keith S

            Everyone should have a right to get married no matter who they are attracted to. Chick-fil-a’s donation was to a group that backed a ban on gay marriages in California. How does that not affect someone’s normal life. My girlfriends gay uncle had to drive out of state to get married. He and his partner have been together 25 years but weren’t given the same right as most Americans. I’m not sure how you think supporting human rights is shoving my belief on someone.I spent 9 years in the military fighting so ALL people could be treated equal. My beliefs are in no way affecting anyone other than me and my family.

  • Nathanial

    I’m a big supporter of genocide. Kill all humans then we won’t have anything to argue about. But seriously it makes me sick how intolerant both sides are. Liberals? Conservatives? In name only. Actions speak louder than mere words. Words are cheap. Fuck “humanity”. Can’t wait till humans are all wiped out and something better gets to be at the top. We humans have fucked up so bad.

  • John DeGraffenreid Jr.

    Wait a moment, just so the whole class understand just what it is that you’re saying. You stole someone else’s photo, created a meme using said photo, posted that meme without blurring her face and thus used her image without her consent and made her the target of screeching internet trolls; but it’s the liberals that are at fault….

    Uhm….that’s not how that works. See in the real world, while they are responsible for their own comments, YOU are the instigator of it all. You appropriated her image without her consent, created a meme and posted it and just hoped she wouldn’t have to face any fallout.

    Well congratulations, she is facing fallout because you were self righteous jerk and decided to involve an innocent person in your stupid. You owe her a public apology, and odds are she could sue you for starting the harassment even if you didn’t intend for it to happen. Wonderful thing the legal system and unintended consequences huh?

    • yowsuh123

      She won’t sue because Republicans are (supposedly) against frivolous lawsuits.

  • Kathleen

    It’s funny to see something truly harmless get passed around and liberals start peeing their pants in anger. It’s even more entertaining when they bash the picture but then claim it makes no difference. I’m always entertained by liberal anger.

  • Mark W

    Distasteful & flippen insane.

  • Teddybearmiller

    There’s a vital lesson in all of this for the pathetic liberals: Don’t mess with a woman who knows how to handle and shoot a gun.

  • azsenjigal

    The only hate I have seen is the radical right hate for any freedom for honest, hard-working American WOMEN who need to have the same freedoms to CHOOSE as men.
    As long as business owners who put THEIR religion ahead of the well being of their female workers, by denying them birth control when they are all in FAVOR of free Viagra and etc., for the limp dick MEN in their employ, then these tarnished “values” will be suspect.
    And it makes us all look like ignorant, lowest common denominators to the intelligent people in other countries.
    America is becoming a joke to more enlightened countries where they have UNDERSTOOD for decades that CONTRACEPTION that is free and easily obtainable REDUCES THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS significantly.
    A visitor from Denmark, with whom I had a conversation a couple of months ago, said she was shocked at the abject ignorance of the religious people who SAY they are against abortion but do everything they can to INSURE UNWANTED PREGNANCIES by keeping birth control away from people who need it.
    If any of these much too vocal advocates for “life” were to actually do something positive for the MILLIONS of children born into POVERTY because their mothers were DENIED BIRTH CONTROL, then I would cheer them on. But these SELFISH, VAIN, SELF-AGGRANDIZING individuals DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for infants and children in need.
    It is SHAMEFUL that in this country with so much wealth we are way down the list of countries that PROVIDE adequate nutrition and care for needy children.

    These people have acted in such an inhumane manner that anyone who listens to them or APPROVES of them should be ASHAMED.
    This is a matter of DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE and sure as heck is not the mark of a PATRIOT.
    A true patriot would PROTECT WOMEN AND CHILDREN, NO DEMEAN AND HARASS THEM.

    • jackrabbit42

      INSURE UNWANTED PREGNANCIES by keeping your panties on and zipper ZIPPED!!

    • sam I am

      and YOU are the problem….absolute misinformation is your steady diet.
      HL and the benefits they give their employees have 16 DIFFERENT forms
      of birth control….they only argued against supply of 4 forms of abortion inducing
      prescriptions…so your argument is stoopid at best.
      you are a hipocrit, you say a true patriot would protect women and children, not demean and harass them…..so why arent you denouncing the people that are harassing and demeaning this woman just because of her beliefs? liberals are all alike, hipocrits and intolerant haters…

      • azsenjigal

        Your reply, with the inaccurate statements, just proved my point.
        And, for your information, the employees are PAYING for their INSURANCE as the cost is deducted from their PAY.
        Thus they are paying for insurance that DISCRIMINATES against them because (as was reiterated by SCOTUS in the person of Alito) more than 20 types of birth control are on the banned list but VIAGRA and other ED drugs are COVERED for men. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/08/hobby-lobby-decision-worse/

        That is DISCRIMINATION.
        And the drugs do NOT INDUCE ABORTION. Check the FACTS. They prevent the implantation of an ovum.

        • sam I am

          make up your mind, do you want to argue about whats available in the benefits HL offers, or discrimination?
          who SHOULDNT pay for benefits? do you expect them to be freeking free?
          When my grandparents immigrated here, they didnt get ANYTHING FREE!!!
          I pay for a portion of my benefits, $320 a mnth for a family of 4. Its called
          INSURANCE, and its deducted from my paycheck, I dont expect it to be free, as I am not a leech,
          Im glad the spelling nazi side of you came out…thats always
          a good attack mode you liberals like to use, Im guessing you are more
          than a just a liberal, but a liberal-feminist

  • jackrabbit42

    Keep you panties up and your zipper zipped.!!PROBLEM SOLVED!!! That also is a CHOICE!!!

  • Christopher Salihe Payne

    “a Texas cheerleader came under extreme fire from the intolerant left over her love for hunting.”….lol, way to obscure the actual truth. Nobody gives a shit if she loves hunting. People are enraged that she’s specifically going to other countries to kill endangered species in hopes of landing a TV show. People that kill animals like lions and white rhinos for any reason are absolutely pathetic, and it just goes to show how little respect they have for anybody or their surroundings.

    • Moral_Hazard

      So the African game managers who allow the hunting are pathetic too? The income from hunters that pays game wardens salaries, helps combat poaching, and helps maintain the population is also pathetic?

  • ZEPHANIAH54321

    LIBERAL PARTY ANYONE

    I’VE HEARD THAT WHEN WORDS FAIL TRY SOME MUSIC.

    MAYBE EVEN A PICTURE

    Josh
    Wilson:
    Something’s
    Got
    To
    Change

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsUWLXf9mt4

  • ZEPHANIAH54321

    HERES ANOTHER VERSION FOR THE COLLEGE KIDS

    Something’s
    Got
    To
    Change
    – YouTube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj3Ym3sifK0

  • DMTboy

    You right winger teabaggers are completely ridiculous! You need your guns to feel tough! I love going to tea party events, disarming you freaks and beating the crap out of you people with my fists like a real man! Conservatives do not know how to fight that’s for sure! I’m 12-0 with 4 KOs at teabagger events. I will be at the open carry rally in Salida Colorado to beat the crap out of more of these little penis gun wimps!

    • ProperModulation

      Typical hate filled liberal.

  • Moral_Hazard

    When lefties hate on this woman is that part of the “war on women”?

  • yowsuh123

    Let me add another: The smartest thing to ever come out of Holly Fisher’s mouth is her stepdaddy’s johnson.

  • godmothersupreme

    How is she ProLife while holding/using/showing off lethal weapons designed to Delete-Life? Not truly pro-life, human OR animal, with those guns…

  • was*thisjustin

    Good for Holly Hobby Lobby! She gets to show her ignorance for the whole world to see! As for us liberals, why would our head explode from such a picture? She is allowed to take and post the picture, I am allowed to laugh at it or comment about it.

    Sadly, she has procreated…

  • Dawgishly

    I am trying to follow the logic of the anger that this young woman has inspired and I think it has finally clicked:

    “Liberals are pro-abortion and anti-gun because only a mother should be able to kill a child.”

    Sound about right?

  • Michael L Clark

    Think about it. If no one could be denied coverage for being sick and didn’t HAVE to buy insurance then everyone would just wait until they were sick to buy insurance. If that happened then insurance companies couldn’t afford to stay in business then no one would be able to afford healthcare. Obamacare, getting it right.

    Now making pre-existing conditions an exclusion, gives alot of people insurance, that the insurance companies are going to have to absorb. The only thing that will offset this will be time. Insurance companies will have to close down, because they will not be able to carry the load until the capital catches up to the debt.

    Now, forcing everyone to buy insurance whether or not they can afford it. Obamacare getting it wrong. Since when does the Government have the right to make someone buy something, they can not afford? Just think about it, you work for minimum wage and you find it hard to provide for you and your family. Thanks to Obamacare, you now have to pay $200 or more a month out of your pocket for insurance you can not afford. Therefore you have to cut back on food. Don’t worry, you now have ACA coverage for malnutrition deficiencies.